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Your Words Shape Your Life When You Believe with Bishop Socrates Charos
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A Greek American immigrant becomes a Hollywood talent scout, then hears a call that flips his life in a completely different direction. We’re joined by Bishop Socrates Charos, founder of Church of All Nations in Clearwater, Florida, for a fast-moving conversation that blends personal story, Christian faith, and an intense focus on healing, joy, and the power of spoken words.
We talk through Socrates’ path from engineering to entertainment, what he says changed when he stepped into ministry, and why he keeps repeating a simple idea: “I don’t know what I’m doing” but I’m willing to serve. He shares bold testimonies and beliefs about spiritual healing through prayer, the authority he associates with the name of Jesus, and why he thinks people overcomplicate what faith is supposed to look like. You’ll also hear us dig into the emotional side of healthy living: how constant negativity and complaining can become a trap, and how choosing love, joy, and peace can reshape the way you experience your day.
The conversation opens up even wider when we connect healing to the outdoors. We discuss gardens as sanctuary spaces, nature as a restorative practice, and the heartbreak of habitat loss when development pushes animals out. If you care about holistic health, mindset, spiritual wellness, and how community choices affect mental health and the environment, you’ll find plenty to wrestle with here.
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Welcome And Meet Socrates
SPEAKER_02I'm right.
SPEAKER_00Well, hello, and welcome to the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine, and today we've got a very special guest. His name is Bishop Socrates Charos. And this guy, I can't wait to get talking. He's a Greek American minister based in Clearwater, Florida, founder of Church of All Nations, and host of the weekly podcast Good News with Socrates. This guy's got quite a story. I just want to jump right into it. Socrates, welcome to the show. I don't think I've had a guest by the name of Socrates. So this is wonderful.
SPEAKER_04Oh, it's a blessing, Joe. It's an honor to be with you and share what God put us together to share to bless people and talk about good healing and good energy because good things come from heaven. I'm a Greek American. I came from my category. And I came to America in 1973. And by design, the afterburner system from our plates to cars and got and I work in so business. I work in Hollywood from my grip and production in the TV show, Dance Fever. And from there, God called me to ministry. I came from soul business to soul business.
SPEAKER_00Wow. Wow. So that's you know, I I've had a lot of ministers and pastors and religious leaders from all faiths come on to the show. And many of them, kind of like that story of Paul the apostle, you know, got knocked off the horse. He was this Roman guy going around attacking Christians, and the next thing you know, he's the biggest advocate. And not that you were against Christians, but just that being in a in a Hollywood business, and and just you know, it seems like it's such an opposite side of the spectrum. And now you're running a church. So I'm I'm really curious about that.
SPEAKER_04Joe, to be honest with you, I don't know what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_00I love it. I don't either.
SPEAKER_04My mother prophesied this time at 13 years old. I'd be in
From Greece To Hollywood Work
SPEAKER_04ministry. She's come from the church of Philippi 400 years family in ministry. For me, I don't want to do that. I want to be in sow business. And God bless me. I came to America as an engineer. And from there, I go back to my soul business because a little boy in Greece, I used to dance and sing, you know, to make a living, make some money, and meet some girls that time, you know. And I came to Hollywood. I work in the Fox 20th century, used to own by Greek people. Ember Grippan used to own the so um dance beaver, Wheel of Fortune, and Jeopardy and other things. And Danny Terryo comes from Ocala. And um I make a I represent the Ohio with a dance beaver, and after the producer say, if you dance Greek dance, you know, we give you a job. Say I do a disco, I can't prefer to do a disco. And say, no, give us do a Greek dance, and we'll give you a job. And I done whatever they ask me, they bring me the clothes, they bring me the music, and I done some Greek dance in the dance favorite. So it used to be all by disco, but this Greek guy, why don't we do Greek dance? And uh they give me a job. You believe that? They give me a job, they make me talent scout from the TV show, they give me good credit card, a good money, and I travel over the world, bring talents to the TV show, you know.
SPEAKER_02Wow, well, it's my life is crazy life.
SPEAKER_04I have a crazy life, you know, but good life. It's happy life.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, sounds like it. Sounds like you enjoy yourself, and that's really important. I I I love what I do, and I love being able to talk to people and share, you know, these stories, and it makes me happy. So I can see a happiness in you that you you it comes out through your voice.
SPEAKER_04You know, my mother told me 13 years old I'd be a minister, the way I told you before. And 52 years old, I own the Capitol Theater in Clearwater, Florida, one of the oldest theaters in the South, you say. And God called me, say, Socrates, I I never understand God can talk to me, you know. And I don't, I don't say nothing. A few months later, with my mother name Socrates, I don't understand again. I never, I my one Saturday morning, 10 o'clock, he's really giving to me. He said, Socrates! I said, Okay, Lord, what do you want for me? He said, I want to be my minister. I say, I'm a senner. What do you want me to do? You know, I don't know what I'm doing. So I do it through you. And uh from that time the Lord takes over, touch my tongue, put the ball on me. He's giving me a ministry of healing with in the presence of two of his angels. He's taken me to heaven to ice to show me that beautiful place, unbelievable place. And he's I have a 10 counter with him, and he's teaching me what to do, and he says, I train you, I make you my disciple, you can make disciples. And I train a lot of people around the world. We have uh over 257 ministers worldwide.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_04And two of them is in Hollywood. Your name is Angela, Halili, and Ariel, and they do the Girls Gun Bible, they travel over the world. One of the big podcasting ministers in Aaron Asia. You know, they have a view over 40 million viewers, you know, and um they've done a great job around the around the nation, these two little girls. They call them losers in the school. Angela kicked out of the school from different schools. But I trained here, the power of God came up on her, and she's done a great job. Young girl, you know, and uh she's living
A Call To Ministry In Clearwater
SPEAKER_04in the Beverly Hills in Hollywood there. Wow, yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, it's interesting, even in uh throughout the Old Testament and even in the New Testament, the people God has called to speak for him didn't know how to do it. They always said, I don't know. He's like, Don't worry about it, I got you. So it seems like it seems like you're doing all right with that. Tell me about how your church got started when you when you first opened the doors.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I started ministering in the theater first, right? In my theater, every Saturday in the morning. I start teaching whatever the people teach me. The Lord teaches me, I teach. I don't know what I'm doing. To today, I still don't know what I'm doing. And he's put the Bible in me, he's speaking through me, and I see people healed. The Lord used me to raise 16 people from death, 23 from coma, and it's so easy to raise the dead. I never know it's so easy because the death is a spirit, and you speak the body, say the name of Jesus, spirit of death, get out of this body right now in Jesus' name, and death comes out and smells ugly and makes sometimes the noise, sometimes the fog. And after I say, Call my spirit, spirit of life, spirit come in the body, give life, and the belly is a bugging, the eyes flickery, whoo! The breath of life comes in. It's easier to raise somebody from death from to heal a headache, brother. And people don't do it, they don't do it in America. And I teach now people around the nation, and I teach them how people to raise the dead. It's so simple. And I I said that in your podcasting. You're podcasting, people can know how to raise the debt right now. We have the spirit of life, the Holy Spirit on us, you know, and how we can die, how we can die. So say everybody can say, today is the day. You say yourself too. Today is the day the Lord has made for me. I confess with my mouth, Jesus is my Lord, and I believe my heart, Father God resurrected from the dead, and I know I'm saved. He's the resurrection and live inside us now. Now, the Holy Spirit says, Holy Spirit, come on me and give me the power to speak the will of God and speak with power and people to be raised from the dead. Because the same spirit resists from the dead, lives inside me to heal us. Romans 8:11. And then you speak to the body, it could be a horse, it can be a cat, it can be a dog, it could be a human being. Because any living being have a soul, and for this gives the power on us by the Holy Spirit to rest in the dead, and we cast the spirit of death out this body in Jesus' name, because he's the resurrection, and when by the Holy Spirit to come in and give life to this body, it happened. That's all it's symbol like that. It's not complicated. To heal somebody, say from headache, is in the middle. Sometimes receive it, sometimes not. This time the person death, you have the spirit of life on us, and he's gonna have the spirit of death. Cast the spirit of death out and fill them up with the spirit of life, symbol like that. You know, and the Lord gives me 16 people rise from death and 23 people from coma in all the hospitals in the area here. God is gonna have fun with us. He wants us to have the guy.
Healing Stories And Bold Claims
SPEAKER_00I went through some difficult things to solve my problem and could have just gone poof like that. So when you started to minister out of your theater, the first time you opened the doors, did a lot of people come or was it just a few people?
SPEAKER_04How did they came? A lot of Yankees came from it from not even understanding why they're coming. You know, sometimes you've got send you people you don't understand. And I have a lot of sick people came. And I have a lady came, I'm ready to die. I used to come in the theater legal, and now I want to show my to my son before I die. I die. And uh, why are you saying you die? See, I have a cancer, and it's for four over my body. They open me and they close me, nothing could do. I say, Oh, don't worry about it. The Lord give me a ministry of healing with power of power. I don't know what I'm doing. It's okay. If I pray with you, say you don't give a cancer. I say, yeah, fine. Why not let me pray? You know, and I pray with her. I cast the spirit of cancer. Cancer is a spirit. I cancel them out, and the cancer, I can tell you how it comes, come from like a mold from unforgiveness to ourselves or others, come from the bloodstream from the family, or come from the environment. If you smoke too much, be around pollution and do goofy things that create a mold in your body, create a cancer. And you cast the spiritual cancer out, and we invite the spirit of God come in and people be healed. Symbol like that. Cancer is a spirit. You say the name of Jesus, spiritual cancer, get out of this body right now, in Jesus' holy name. And by the Holy Spirit, come in and give healing to this body in Jesus' holy name. And the people be healed. God makes it so easy. Who makes it difficult? We humans make it difficult. We put our mind how can be done, how this. It's not our job to know how to. I do things and I never know what I'm doing. I speak the word and the world produce whatever we say. God speaks it, and the earth created. God speaks it and created us. This means the power on us and the Holy Spirit on us, whatever we speak, plenty happen. As long as it's productive and good. Don't speak death. God is alive. You know, you cannot go to the darkness side. You know, we speak life. Well, people represent life, joy, and peace. Because the the Holy Spirit and us have a fruit, and the fruits is a love, joy, and peace, and lots more. You know, this is the way people that is so true.
SPEAKER_00I think that you know, I think a lot of the problems in the world come from the thoughts and words of people always being negative and pointing out all these terrible things. Every time I turn around, people are complaining and talking. I go, Wow, no wonder there are so many problems. And you know, you you you meet somebody like I I call it a sunny disposition. Like I wake up in the morning every day and I'm like, Woohoo! I'm here, I love it. I get another day to live, and and I jump out of bed, and I can't wait to go walk around the yard with my dogs and and just see who I see, you know. And a lot of people though, all they hear and see in that same beautiful place is the only thing wrong. Oh, that's broken, that's no good, this is wrong. And I go, wow, you know, imagine if we all could see the beauty that life had to offer.
SPEAKER_04We we have to look at with the eyes of Jesus, not our own eyes. Right. Jesus look at you and say, What am I great son? What a nice man, Joe. I make Joe is a cool guy, you know. We have to look the best on people. You know, we have to look the best in the environment, we have to look the best in the in the scenery, the best in our wives, the best in our husbands, the best in the children, the best in everything. Because if you search in the good, you find the good. If you search the darkness, you find darkness. Whatever you the Bible says, whatever you search, you find. You know, but the thing I want to give you the fruit of the Holy Spirit and us, because the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God in us. If we have a God inside us, that's a people they cannot figure out. It's just simplicity, you know. Jesus comes inside, his spirit comes in and produce certain fruit. Now, but the fruit of the spirit, Galatians 5:32, is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Again, such a thing is no lack. You know, God give us the spirit, and his spirit can lay good ingredients on us. And whatever is done, we can do it too, because God lives inside us. That's a human being that can have to get out. That's the reason the professors in the university they don't want us to know that. Because if we know that, we have a power. And if we know that, we can heal ourselves. If we know that, we have fun in life. Hospitals they don't want you to have a fun, they want you to see, they can make money for you. The doctors, the in between me and you, they give you 50% from healing, but God gives you 100%.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_04It's different because they want to make money, it's a business. You know, God can heal you from any sickness. I see people blind. See, I see guy not have ear, ear coming. Come on, flip me out, but blow my mind out. I prefer a guy came from military from Iraq, no eye, no ear. And we pray from him, and God give him eye and give him ear. He's really blown me my mind out. I say, how can be done? But study the will of God, he's created us by the dust of the earth, create a man. From the ground of the ground of the earth, create the you the animals, and from the rib of the men create the women. This means God creates animals before the women, you know what I mean? From the rib of the men, and all the ingredients is inside us, you know, and happiness can heal you, misery can kill you. Right. Like that. Your body releases certain chemical and heal you this time. You're happy. And so they call it enthusiasm, is a Greek word, enthusiasm in English. This what's that mean? Mean and the God is inside you, you know, and the and this time you're speaking is joy to you, healing comes to you. Your own body release certain chemical and heal you. This time you are miserable, your own body release certain chemical and killing you like that. You know, it is not it's not taking four four years in college to figure that out. The word of God say, simple like that. You know, the darkness is not good, the light is good. The beginning, God said God created the heavens, not the heaven, the heavens and the earth. Therefore, formless and empty, the spirit of God hover the waters of the deep. And God said it'll be light. The light is Jesus Christ, is the Lord of God. We need the light on us in life to have fun, to have a joy, to dance. Opa! Greek say opa! Okay, it's high, I mean Jewish, you know what I mean? The Italianos say, bella, bella! You know, the Americanos say, you know, in Texas, the dance of the time there, the cowboys. And in California, I used to live there. We used to dance all the time. In Hollywood, it used to be beautiful clubs. I used to go to the Greek night clubs there, Greek restaurants, and they have Greek music and dancing. And joy, dancing
Words Joy And The Spirit’s Fruit
SPEAKER_04is only unearthed and in heaven. Singing only unearth and in heaven. In hell, it's not music, it's not joy, it's not makeup, it's not hair, dude. It's a goofy place. This is I don't want nobody to go to hell. I want everybody to go to heaven because it's so beautiful. People look beautiful, they sing, they dance, they have a beautiful meals, you know, no sickness in heaven, you know. Who's I want to be in heaven? Only dumb spirit people don't want to be there. I want to say something with you in prayer private.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_04God told me, don't be upset with people, be upset with the spirits and their own people. People open the door and goofy spirits come in and make them goofy. If people open the door and the Holy Spirit come in, give them light and joy. Simple like that. And don't cost you nothing. Love is like a medicine, the Bible, right? Yes, you know, heal your bones, make you happy. Why not? Why people miserable? The way you say before, I like before people say they look find the goofy things now. Find the good things for you. Love is a medicine. The way you love now, God killing you, anything inside you, I have fun. Make you younger. Make you younger. I'm at 79 years old. I'll be in next May 80, okay? And I still keep going, I still get dancing, I still have fun, and I have a beautiful three sons, I have two granddaughters, and I have a great life because I choose to have a good life.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, choice.
SPEAKER_04People have to make a choice to have it, to be happy or to be miserable. People choose to be miserable, you know. Agreed.
SPEAKER_00I I completely agree.
SPEAKER_04You know, and it's so simple.
SPEAKER_00Meet somebody who's miserable, you know. You as somebody who has God pulsing through your veins and in your spirit, you you don't want them to be miserable. You want them, you want them to find joy. So, how do you share that with them? Like, I know people in my life that are miserable all the time, and I want them to be happy, I want them to find happiness. But whatever I say, whatever I do, they seem to always find some way to be miserable.
SPEAKER_04Yes, because the spirit, rather, is the spirit of misery. You cast them out in the name of Jesus. Jesus can't give to Jesus the power, Jesus give it to us, okay? Now we have all that power, all the power is in you, okay? I'm gonna say that. Yeah, you say the name of Jesus, spirit of misery, get out of this person right now in Jesus' name, and say, Holy Spirit, come in. The Holy Spirit love joy, they have their own spirits. We cannot be upset with people, we have to be upset with the spirits and their people. The group spirits say, get out of there. I like that. Joy come in. Say joy, fill yourself with joy, young man. Come on, come on. You I see so many young people three months ago. I'm in Hollywood, okay? People in the streets and screaming and making noise is speak stupid things to the south. They carry their own selves. Then I understand the words we speak create a destiny for us to walk. If you speak good words, you walk in the good words. If you speak stupid things, you walk in stability. Right. You know, whatever you speak, it's happening. People that don't got it. Our words have power and create a destiny, and that's the thing they don't teach you in the universities. In the universities, they're not teaching you in and even the church teach you that. Why? Because the church is to create a business now, it's created a religion. God is not a religion, God is in love, God's fun. People understand. People say I'm going to church and they complain all the time. I say, What type of church are you going to? What kind of church? You have a joy, come out with joy. You know what I mean? Because we men make the church. Okay, God called us where the church is the head of the church. Okay, he's the head. For us, we don't want to have the head of the church, Jesus. When I have my own head, and our head have a lot of headaches, you know, and now we're walking headaches, we're walking problems. I see very wise men. I want to tell you, you look Greek, man. You look like ancient Greek with a lot of your wisdom. You have a lot of wisdom on you. I can say anything.
SPEAKER_00Your 258th minister, because I agree with everything you're saying here.
SPEAKER_04No, no, because I see joy on you. I see.
SPEAKER_00I am very happy. Yeah. Yeah, brother.
SPEAKER_04Around you, I see a light. I see a light around you. You have an aura. The aura comes because you have a joy inside you, you come from happiness. Because misery can kill you, joy can kill you. Why do people choose misery? I never understand. I never got at that. People choose to be miserable, and I say, Why you want to be miserable? They complain all the time. They complain from this, they complain from that. It's too hot, it's too cold, it's to this, it's to that. No, have fun in life.
SPEAKER_01What kind of aura do you see me in?
SPEAKER_04Well, I say to you, very good one. Very good one. You have a good one.
SPEAKER_01But I am always sad all the time. I have everything to be thankful for, but I'm so sad because so, anyhow, I know he's gonna be rebuking me after he turns out. No, no, no, it's okay.
SPEAKER_04It's okay, I pray for you, you know, it's a spiritual thing. I say in in the name of Jesus, spirit of complaint, spirit of judgment, spirit of misery, get out of your life. In Jesus' name, a spirit of joy come in. You know, spirit of joy. You are beautiful women. Really, you are beautiful. And you have good things inside you, good heart. But people spoke to you goofy things, you know. Some sometimes curses generational and you I break them in the name of Jesus, and I release generational blessings for you for Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Some of you in your life grow up, and some people say goofy things on you. You know, I break them. Me and your husband will break them and release blessings to you, great women of God. You know, you have a great husband there.
SPEAKER_02I do, no, yeah.
SPEAKER_00We've been together for 30 years.
SPEAKER_01So we he's much.
SPEAKER_00We have fun, yeah. Yeah. So, Socrates, I we have a garden out here in California. It's a it's a healing garden, and we have a non-profit. It's kind of like a church in that way. And people come to our garden and they come and they pray, they come and they heal, they come. You know, I believe that the God God gave us nature as well. That absolutely it's healing. So just being outside with
Nature As Love And Living Prayer
SPEAKER_00the trees and the wildlife and the water, it's it's very healing. I would love to invite you if you ever come to Southern California. I would love to show you.
SPEAKER_04What part of California you are?
SPEAKER_00I'm between LA and San Diego.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I've been there many times. And in San Diego, I have friends and in LA, you know. I loved California. Uh, you know, I hope the Californians to love California. You know, I mean, very few like you, they love it. They speak very better from California. California is a Greek state. In Greek, you know what I mean, California? Good harvest. Greek means good. California means harvest. It's the state of good harvest. It can be a harvest of souls, can be a harvest of fruits, can be a harvest of nature, a lot of good things. You know, California is a productive state made ordained by God, and it's a big angel outside California. It's that's angel number two. Because from heaven, the Lord show me four angels from the four corners on earth. The first angel is outside in South Africa, between South Africa and Madagascar. The second angel aside the lay. The third angel is in Jiblotter, and the fourth angel is between Cyprus and Israel. And the angel is a beautiful, tall angel. They have to be invited to come in. It's not accidentally they call them the scene of angels, you know. But the angel is a holy angel, is big, gorgeous angel with a blind hair, you know, very long. And uh, people have to invite him because the government wants him to come in. I don't know why. Okay. If the mayor of your city uh comes out and say, Hey, holy angel, come on in and give us joy, the angel plan to come in. Stay outside, wait till the time they'd be invited, you know what I mean? And people then understand it, they have to invite the light, they have to invite the good, always they're searching for goofy things and bad things. You said that earlier. Why people searching for dumb things are never the stain, you know, because they don't know whatever we're searching, we find. We have to search, we have to invite the goodness, yes, come on us, where they invite the kingdom of heaven to come on us. And I want to tell you something beautiful with the trees. My first account with the Lord, I speak that and I feel the Holy Spirit on me. My first account with the Lord, because I used to fight, argue all the time from little boy, and the Lord takes me by the hand in a park, and he said, He's holding by my left hand, he's my right, and hold my hand, and I see the the holy thing now here is in the risk. Okay, and he says, Sacro this is what you see. I say, I see a tree, and he say love. I say, Lord, how can be love is a tree? He said, I make it because I love you. And more down, what do you say? I see a creek, and you say love. I say, Why is love is a creek? He said, I make it because I love you. Anytime you see outside your house, the trees, the clouds, the oceans, the rivers, the things, God make it for you and me because he lovers. For us, we have to love the creation, we have to love the fruits. God in the Genesis 1 make everything the spiritual world. By Genesis 2, he's making the natural, and the Lord Himself put the tree in the ground and take Adam to take care of it. This means we have to take care of the trees, we have to love them. I talk to the trees, I have a dead tree in my yard, and I talked to the tree, and the tree came to life. I talk to the flowers, dead flowers that come to life because the power of the resurrection is us. We have to talk to them, to the creation, talk to the dolphin. You go to the ocean and talk to the ocean, to the dolphins, to the fish, they come out. You go to the woods, talk to the animals, say, Hey, I love you, Jesus loves you. Come on, come on, come on out. I love you too much. They're coming out. You know, we have the power to do that by the power of love. The biggest power we have on us is love, because God is love, you know, and and he's living inside us. That's the reason I say to a lot of people ask Jesus to be your Lord and Savior. Nothing has to do with religion. Jesus is a person and is our best friend. He's a son of God, and this time the Holy Spirit comes inside us, we have the same power as Jesus. Jesus, our brother, the firstborn of our father. And the Holy Spirit and us make us sons of God. Romans 8. They say, those who give the Spirit of God, they're the sons and daughters of God. You are a son of God, and I'm going out to the nature, and I speak as a son of God. I'm not speaking as the sacriles, I speak as a son of God's sacriles, you know, because you have a power and authority. That thing nothing has to do with religion. People put their religion in the middle, they screwed up everything, they screwed up everything, they screwed up the beauty of reality. They make it they make a goofy darkness. Religion is a prostitution, you know what I mean? God is in love, and that love of God healing us, that God will make us joyful, make us younger, and we can live 120 years. I want you to live 120 years because the joy of the Lord, the same you gorgeous wife. You have a beautiful wife, yes, your beautiful eyes. She look like a Greek godness, you know. Nice. Where are you from, sister? What's your lovely name?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I'm Liz. I'm from well, I was born in LA. Well, La Puente here in California.
SPEAKER_04Beautiful.
SPEAKER_01My parents come from New Mexico.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I love it. Yeah, I love it. I'll be all over the United States and I'd be in Mexico too. I I love everything. I love Europe, I love Asia, I love anywhere. Wherever God sent me, I go.
SPEAKER_01Okay, what pains me so deeply. Like I created, we when I say I, we created a sanctuary here, and the animals keep new species come in, you know, little critters.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_01And but when I step out of here, it pains my heart so deeply because I can't save the animals. You know, they're building and destroying all the land, and they have nowhere to go. And I see them putting the cement and the critters are underneath there. So it and it's just I get so depressed, and I pray and I do all right.
SPEAKER_04Don't get depressed. You know what's happened? People perish of lack of knowledge, they don't understand this book in here. It's a menu of how to live, and we turn them to religion. You know, this is the world of God. Okay, the will of God gives us wisdom to do things. Nothing, again, nothing has to do with religion, have to do with reality. I read the book What to Eat. I we have to take care of the animals, we have to take care because God makes the animals and give it to the men to take care to be the friend. We have to care the trees. We have to, because God gives us, because He loves us and to have a better life. In people in here, I see cut trees. You cut trees like you have my heart, because the tree gives you oxygen, give you,
Caring For Animals Trees And Community
SPEAKER_04give you beautiful, nice auto, give you protection. People they don't got it because lack of knowledge will not teach. I blame the school system, sister. I'm sorry to say that. I blame the school system because the school not teaches people survival, they don't teach them how to live, they do teach people how to destroy themselves. You know, how to find the best things in us, how bad we are, how stupid we are. No. God says you are my son, you're my daughter, I love you, and you can do everything I've done, you can do too. We have to teach people reality, how to be a survivor and how to be a blessing, how to be creative. We will keep teach people how we destroy. We're gonna teach people how to be creative. To put a tree, take a love, to put them in the ground, we have to put water, we have to hug them, we have to talk to them. I talk to my trees, and if I take you in my yard, blow your mind out, how beautiful it is. Because I talk to them, I hug them, I put the scriptures down and I say, I love you. You know, people go around and say, Why do you put the stones with the love to your tree? Because I really love them. I love my trees, I love my garden, I love it, and it's because it's my friends. I go there and I feel the love and energy of the creation and from the creator. Why for me? I want to destroy that. Why people want to destroy animals? Because of stability of lack of knowledge. We have to start to teach in schools how to take care of the environment, how to take care of our animals, how to take care of each other's, how to take care of the beautiful garden. You do the beautiful thing the way God done. You know what you can do, Joe and Joe? You do whatever God done. God created a garden for men to live. And men don't take care of it. You know what I mean? Men try to do goofy things just out of the garden. Now, angels in the garden. This time you go in your garden, you feel the presence of God. You know that? This time you go in your garden, listen and Joe, you can feel the presence of God. You know why? Because you love him. Yes, God is love, and God creates beautiful trees and flowers and everything to you to live, to have a joy. You go there and feel joy, you feel happy, you know. I know I never got it. How people that don't got it that's him. Now, even the church teaches them that. We have to start teaching the church how to survive and how to love the environment. We talk about our own blah blah and say, Gimme, gimme, my name is Jimmy, because the church now tends to a business. Tell your business, gimme, gimme. God pay my bills. You don't have to give me a beggar. God makes kings and a priest, they don't make a beggars. And if I would like to be a beggar, go to the church, they're begging. What are you begging? You're you're a son of God, man. You're the kingdom. Come on. We have to change the mentality to go back in the basics. We'll go too far ahead, and we're in the blowing of the with the winds. We have to go back to the basics. The tree, where do you put the tree? You put in the dirt. You're gonna put them on the top of the marble or the top of stone or the top of chimen. You put them in the dirt. We have to go and set up the people in the dirt and start building the society from the dirt and up.
SPEAKER_01We try to be one thing that I know that like in Orange County, people don't like they put palm trees in, you know, it doesn't give much shade, but the point is that they don't like the mess. So a lot of it they cut all the trees down.
SPEAKER_04So, you know, that's one of the you know the insurance push them to do that too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's it.
SPEAKER_04The insurance push you to cut the trees because they have the devil inside. The only insurance we have is God. What would be the stupid insurance companies? The most wealthy companies, the insurance companies and medical things. The insurance they want to destroy the environment and they work together with the medical, because if we have a good environment, we live a long life. People they don't got it. They cut the tree to cut you life because the tree gives you life, give you joy, give you sado, give you oxygen, you know, and protect you.
SPEAKER_01People they know it's another subject we can, you know, talk about even the Amazon, how they don't people don't realize that's our lungs, and they're cutting down these trees. Yes, the animals.
SPEAKER_04Because of grit and money, my love. Because of great and money, people they they they have to go back to the basics, they have to go back to the basics to love one another. My wife, I have a great wife from 40 years. Her name is an American Indian, she's not the creation, she's not the handy, she's from Sony from Columbus, Ohio. Sweet gal, 40 years together. We have a beautiful women, beautiful women. I want to sorry to you here. I'm gonna sorry to you here. Look at you, you're staying here. Oh, yeah, beautiful. My guest, my guest in photo, through your ball, the lucky, come in, my friend, Joe, at least, mama.
SPEAKER_00We're just in front, yeah, Socrates. We're we're running low on time. Okay, to tell you this. We barely began our conversation. I think I I we need to come back and talk more and do this again. I I I love you, man.
SPEAKER_04I I first time I meet you, and I'm not gay, okay? I'm straight, but I love you, man. Yeah, yeah. No, it's just I love you right. First time I meet you guys, because you're full of love, you love the nature, you love God, you love, you love what I I asked God today.
SPEAKER_01I said, please show me a miracle today, and you are it. So he's showing something good. Oh, did he come off?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, his his computer got hot. So, Socrates, I I don't know if you're able to hear me, but it looks like your computer got hot. So I
Closing And A Sudden Disconnect
SPEAKER_00do look forward to having you come back and continuing this conversation and showing us all how you know we can find this Holy Spirit and ability to find joy and healing and all those wonderful things. And I look forward to continuing our conversation and having you come back and come and visit my garden as well. Well, this has been another episode of the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine, and I want to thank all of our listeners for making this show possible, and we will see you next time.
