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Healing Takes Work, Not Wishes with Richard McCuen
Healing doesn’t arrive on command; it arrives when faith and effort finally meet. Joe sits down with longtime friend and frequent guest Richard McCuen for a candid, grounded conversation about moving from crisis to momentum—through chemo, scans, traumatic injury, VA delays, and the daily choices that turn belief into results. We talk about the difference between hoping for a miracle and building a life it can land in: sleep, nutrition, movement, community, and the hard work of acting on the guidance you ask for.
Richard walks us through his on-duty trauma, years of shoulder and neck complications, and the frustrating maze of delayed care. Instead of waiting, he built a practical plan: isolation movements, band work within safe angles, breath and posture training, and relentless research into his condition. That continues today alongside medical options, because both-and beats either-or. When a recent gallstone scare and cancer concern surfaced, scans and bloodwork shaped the next steps while his household doubled down on whole-food nutrition, chlorophyll-rich greens, fiber-first fruit, and cellular hydration.
We also dig into mindset and meaning. Self-talk isn’t fluff; it’s instruction to your nervous system. Surrender isn’t giving up; it’s acknowledging the next right step and taking it. Therapeutic horticulture, sunlight, and soil provide calm you can feel. And when life removes relationships or routines, it’s often making space for the ones that help you heal. Our promise isn’t a one-size cure. It’s a method: identify your system under stress, assemble your team, test low-risk interventions, measure honestly, and iterate.
If you’re ready to take ownership of your health, this conversation offers a clear path forward and the encouragement to start. Subscribe for more honest, practical guides to healing, share this with someone who needs momentum, and leave a review to help others find the show.
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Well, hello and welcome back to the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine, and I'm kind of happy. Uh today we have back in the studio a very special guest, Richard McEwen. He's been featured on the podcast many, many times over the last couple of years. And uh we haven't had you here as a guest for probably close to a year. Richard, welcome back. It's so great to have you back with us.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you. It's good to be back. I I'm starting to uh feel a lot better and and going in the right direction. So finally that's uh a benefit for like my help and and the things that I've been battling just as well as you, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you you've been, I mean, geez, you you and uh me both between the two of us, we've gone through a a crazy roller coaster ride. But um, you know, when you left off the last time we really talked here on the podcast, um, you were still going through um the death of your mom and and uh all the the problems and and conflicts with the family and moving. And I I don't think I'm not sure if we talked since you've connected with your partner, um, and um the relationship that you now have. Um it's a whole whole different world. Like you're a whole different Richard. And it's funny because we're sitting here looking at each other. Now the listeners won't be able to see this because it's a podcast, it's an audio file. But when we first started talking together, I had a head full of hair and you were the bald guy. And uh now I'm the bald guy, and you got a head full of hair and a beard.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's getting really cold here, so I try to transition as you know and fit in as much as I can.
SPEAKER_00:Keep myself I hear you. If I had hair, I'd be growing it, but uh it'll be coming back soon enough.
SPEAKER_02:It is, you look really well.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I feel I feel remarkable. Um, you know, I went through one more round of chemo than I thought I was going to, and along with all the other therapies and the diet and all this difficult stuff, but the last one whooped my butt. But I also know that it whooped the cancer's butt and finished it off. I'm pretty sure like we're we're getting close to uh uh scheduling a scan and um to validate you know where we're at, but I don't feel like this thing is um breathing down my neck anymore like it was, and I think um if if there's anything left, it's just a a shadow of whatever it was, and we'll we'll we'll be able to finish it off. But I think I feel more than likely like we're done, like we got this thing, and um it's just little remnants left back.
SPEAKER_02:You look like two different people before before and now it's it's like such a dramatic change. Oh, yeah, really. If you like it's amazing, like when you just have faith and you and you believe and you and you put that with God.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, he he does amazing things, and and you're living proof because exactly man it's not just the belief, like I have people all the time that are like, yeah, all you gotta do is believe, and the miracle happened, and Jesus will fix you, and and all of this. And I'm like, Yeah, you're right, but it I don't believe that generally it works that way, where all you do is believe, like you believe, and then you go do the work, and and then you go find the answers. Because we live in a physical body, and and there are miracles that happen, and and yes, Jesus has healed me, but the the the work that causes that to be able to manifest, like if I was sitting there eating a crappy diet and living a crappy life and doing all the things that I was doing prior to solving this, I don't know that the miracle would work the same way. And I think that I think there's a lot of it that has to do with our desire to solve our problem, our willingness to do the hard work and and the faith on top of it that says, you know, I know that uh God said he would help us. All we have to do is ask, right? But but that doesn't mean you just ask and you're better. It means you ask and then you get given the answers and then you do the work.
SPEAKER_02:I've I've learned, you know, that message can can uh dictate different things. He's definitely not gonna give you something.
SPEAKER_00:We've got a little bit of a weird connection button. Turn your video off, and we'll have a better connection.
SPEAKER_02:Turn the video off?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, turn your video off, and that'll make the audio connection better because it's your feed's a little choppy. And I I'd rather now that I've seen you, yeah. Well just keep your video off and then your your audio will be smooth.
SPEAKER_02:Is that is that better?
SPEAKER_00:No, your video's still on. Turn the video off. Yeah, I turned all it came back on. Yeah, it's still on. Just turn there you go. Okay. Yeah, so now you're clearer. Yeah, much better. Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Yeah, I I I've learned speaking with God is especially like when you want to really change. He he's definitely gonna make you change and be prepared for what you ask for because he's once you ask, there's no there's no change in, you know, what what frequency message that you have put out there for him to, you know, connect to you. He certainly walked me through some pain I didn't think that I'd I'd survive from. And it it it's amazing to just that belief and that trust, knowing that you're going to be fine in the end. I think it's it's it was a really strong message for me because that's what I needed. Is I needed to hear that voice in the deep of that pain to walk me through it. And I'm I'm glad because you don't you you have to walk through the fire, you know, to be clean.
SPEAKER_00:So it's so true. I I um and it's wild, you know, because you get it. Uh people all the time, you know, they they decide they want to make their life better, and they're like, Oh yeah, I'm gonna pray for patience, or I'm gonna pray for, you know, wisdom or all these things. And I, you know, I spent my life praying for wisdom and I just got beat to shit. You know, I kept get get I kept giv given one harder challenge after another, and finally I'm like, okay, okay, you know, that's that's good. I'll I'll I'll take what I got and we'll try to work with it. But when you pray for a healing, and um then all of a sudden you get these different challenges, you got to realize that that's that's where that healing is gonna come from. And, you know, like you said, when you want to make a dramatic change, you have to be willing to accept how it's gonna come to you. And it it it overcoming something, regardless of what it is, generally requires a major life shift. And that's generally not a pleasant experience. You know, once in a while you get a beautiful life shift, like you meet a partner and you start a relationship and you get a lot of joy out of it. But generally, like you gotta pick up and move, or you gotta, you know, get rid of a bunch of something that you're used to, or or relationships fall apart and make room for a new one, or whatever. There's always these sacrifices that it seems like you have to make.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. And and having that that can be difficult too, depending on somebody's situation. Uh, they may not have the support, you know, around them to uh help them guide them through something that you know they're experiencing themselves that's you know uh something dramatic. Uh it it it does pay to be able to within your own self have that calm voice to be able to talk to yourself, to walk yourself through just to let you know, you know, like I'm okay, you know, I'm gonna be okay, you know, I I'll get through this, you know, because it's the same thing as you know, being mad. It's you're communicating with every cell in your body, and that's to me really a command. So if we teach ourselves how to self-talk and and treat ourselves the way we would treat others, you know, what we'll we'll we'll mirror that image uh as as a frequency of healing because that's where it lies. Is is you have to know that we're not in control. And we do need assistance and guidance.
SPEAKER_00:So no, go ahead, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02:When when someone is in in that position to where they can just like I've talked to people that want to heal, but it's like they want to rob your energy.
SPEAKER_00:They want to heal, but they know better than you.
SPEAKER_02:Right. And it's like they draw your energy just like spontaneous and and in that or and it it really takes somebody to tell themselves, I need help, you know, I can't do this myself. And what with with that put out there, God will send you what you need, you know, like how we years ago got in touch, you know, and connected. It was through someone, you know, another source that was connected to you, right? That provided the message, and you know, I received it. You know, that was that's the frequency. And if you can align yourself with the people that you know you can get the help from and the guidance, because we're all just giving each other.
SPEAKER_00:It was even more miraculous than that because our common connection became an obstacle for both of us, like they were they were they were people that were trying to keep you from connecting with me and and interfering with the things I was doing, and through it all, we both saw the value of each other and realized that we were better connecting directly, and we both let those people go, and we've been working ever since.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, and and that's that's the thing. Some some people are gonna come into your life, some people are gonna come out, right? But it accepting the knowledge from it from both sources is the real connection because I believe everyone that you come in connect contact with has something to do to whether they could either you can assist or you can help somebody else.
SPEAKER_00:Oh hundred percent. There's a couple elements to it, like you said, in in order for you to be able to help somebody, or for somebody to be able to help you, you have to surrender and realize that you don't have all the answers, and realize that you're gonna have to believe something somebody says, whether it's an inner voice, whether it's a mystical experience, whether it's a person that you meet at a shop that or a teacher or an expert or a doctor or just somebody you bump into on the street. But you have to realize or accept that information is coming to you from the ultimate source, from your creator, and it comes in any which way, like it might come in a little voice on the wind, or it might come you know, through some show you listen to, or it might come through a friend or a stranger. You just don't ever know where it's gonna come from.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. And and to me, like what you do and what you have created, it pretty much subliminally like plants that seed, you know, as the message. Because it has guided me, you know, what this has been since 2015. Right, it's been a while, 2017. Something like that. And now I'm in South Carolina and it it you know that's continuing, you know, the message and continuing to help provide a better source of healing for you know somebody else as well as you know your ourselves and passing that information along. I I I don't want to be silent into what has healed me, you know, because that that that's the wrong message, you know. Like I I believe, like whenever you I tell my son, because he's always walking around like god dang it, and he's you know, having conversations with him tells, and I say I tell him all the time, I say, you know, the devil can hear what you say, but God hears what you think. Yeah, exactly. So when when we internally keep the message in tune to the right frequency in people, we will always be guided to the right direction. It doesn't matter who we come in contact with. And that's that's the pure source of healing is providing that guidance and and assistance from others to where you can intertwine and pull from one another to where oh as motivation, like you motivate me every single day. I see you definitely have dealt with something more than I've I've dealt with in my life, you know. And I'm just being honest, you know, and seeing I was really worried, you know, there for a while, you know, and to see you now is just it like miraculous, right? I mean, it's uh like you said, I'm a motivates me to get through what I I'm going through, right? And and I I'll tell you the truth, Joe. I'm still waiting for doctor's approval, but they've already told me once. And you know, I'm I beat cancer. Yeah, I'm I feel I'm cancer free. Okay, and with you know, finding out that that you know, a gallstone later on because of the pain, having to go to the emergency room, and I don't even have that now. Nice. So, and and to be honest, like she's really seen God at work just through me because I haven't been able to, you know, dealing with you know cancer.
SPEAKER_00:I I don't really like to say that word, but it's you know what though it it's a fungus. All you're doing is you're identifying a thing, and and and you're not giving it power by saying that word, it's it's it's just putting it into terms that people can understand. And if you call it a fungus or a parasite or whatever, that's fine too. It doesn't matter, like everybody's got their way of understanding it. The truth is it is what it is, and and it doesn't really matter the name we give it, as long as you know it's not just saying it, it's what are we thinking while we're saying it? And you know, when I see it, I recognize that it's me. It's it's a it's a piece of me that got confused. And for whatever reason, whether it's because of a fungus or a parasite or or or or a virus or a miswiring or some genetic mess up or whatever, it doesn't even really matter. What matters is that how are we gonna solve it? How are we gonna get this thing to decide that it doesn't need to be in my body anymore? It doesn't need to be part of me anymore, and it needs to go. And, you know, I think that sometimes we get caught up on things. Like I know a lot of people that um you know, they're holistic people and they have thoughts about things, and they, you know, are sure, you know, it's this and not that, you gotta do this and not that. And what I've learned in my journey is that everybody's answers may be a little different. And, you know, the the differences between a cancer, and and all a cancer is is a mutated cell. It just means it's a cell that's not working the way your body was originally designed to work. So if you got a spot on your liver or a spot on your bones, or in my case, a spot on my neck, back of my tongue, you you're your your tongue is always making new cells, right? Old cells are dying, new cells are coming in. And in the case of cancer, all of a sudden these cells start behaving differently. They they they are acting in a different way. They they have some kind of a genetic code that got changed that says instead of doing this, now you're gonna do that. And it and it could be caused by a number of reasons. You know, there's I don't think there's one cause for every cancer. I think some people do get cancer from smoking cigarettes. And I think some people get cancer from being exposed to toxic chemicals. And I think some people get cancer, like I mine was caused by a virus. Some people get it from a fungus, some people get it from parasites and and combinations of all these things. I think there's all these reasons why we can get these things, but frankly, it really comes down to like what are you thinking about when you're thinking about this? Like you said, your son goes around and and thinks, you know, negative things. And I think when you think about a negative thing, you're empowered by negativity, you know, right? And and you can take and think that same thing and think about the answer, the solution, right? You go, you know, my leg hurts, my knee hurts, and you can go, God dang it, my knee hurts, my knee hurts, and just think that. And what's that gonna do? It it puts out that frequency that says, Yeah, you're hurting, so keep on hurting. Or you can think about, yeah, my knee hurts, so I'm gonna put some ice on it, or I'm gonna put a little topical, or I'm gonna take a supplement, or I'm gonna make this feel better. And then you start thinking about how you feel when you're better. And then all of a sudden, I guarantee you, you're the same problem caused by the same thing, whatever it was, doesn't even matter. You're gonna find your way to that answer much quicker by thinking about that. So I've spent my time thinking about me being healthy and finding those answers. And I didn't really care where they came from. You know, I didn't care what they were. They maybe have been something I knew about, maybe something I didn't know about. But I just said I see me healthy, and all of a sudden, look at I'm looking at myself in the mirror, and I'm getting healthier every day, and I'm going back to what I looked like when I was completely healthy. And exactly, I I think it has a lot to do with that, you know, you're creating in your mind, whether it's through prayer or intention or whatever you want to call it, your mind is a powerful, powerful force that creates all the time, and you understand that. So, Richard, um, you've been through, yeah, I know you say I've gone through something worse than you, and maybe I came closer to dying than you did. And and and in that context, I guess you could say it's worse, but you've been through a lot of shit. And and so for the listeners, you know, I encourage you to go back. Uh, Richard has probably recorded a dozen episodes with us, and he's talked about some of his injuries, and you were in the military, you were in law enforcement, you sustained a um, you almost died. You you sustained a very traumatic brain injury, and you've sustained shoulder injury and neck injuries. And why don't you tell us a little bit about that journey? Because you know, you've been dealing with all of that through the VA and and finding your own holistic answers and and working with our products and all of these things that you're you're finding your way to your health. Why don't you share a little bit about that journey?
SPEAKER_02:Yes, it's uh well, ever since my mom passed in two years ago, uh December, uh it's been quite challenging, not just you know, her passing, but just picking the pieces up, you know, and finding out things that we've had to deal with, our health, you know, starting to decline and figuring out where where and why, you know, the things were going on. Um yeah, with the VA, that it's pretty much Joe, since 2017 or 2015, February 14th, and 1542 hours. That's whenever, you know, I almost lost my life on duty as a law enforcement officer. Uh from that point till now, I'm still battling and trying to get doctors to see me or treat me and things like that. So holistically, really, that's been my go-to. And the only thing that I can I could say that has benefited in why I'm still here and the condition that I am, is because of I've I've tried to go. She sent me the VA once I get here in South Carolina. Uh, she walked me, you know, through it, got me, you know, set up and everything here, transitioning, meaning through the VA uh from Cali to South Carolina, and uh determined that you know, from the pri the original incident on duty, that was when I dislocated my arm. It was just with all the all the trauma and how my my body was, it it just froze that that way until I got uh physical therapy done here in South Carolina. It exposed it the bone because they reset like I was I had like two inches short on my right side because my hip would touch my uh my rib cage. Wow. And so right, they fixed that, you know, with inversion table and physical therapy. So when I had an x-ray dental, you know, it's like okay, we can work on your shoulder now. They determined that oh, you need surgery because your your your collarbone is is not attached to the chest plate.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you showed me some of those images, and it's just like wow, yeah. And it's got a world of mess in that body, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I I constantly walk around even till now, you know, with a dislocated arm.
SPEAKER_00:You're the guy doing a thousand push-ups a day.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, I'm gonna I'm probably gonna have to go back to that because I'm gonna have to do something about the arm, and I think it just needs reset, to be honest. But the bone poke protruding into the throat, into the esophagus is really getting old because it's not set in the shoulder. So these are all the things I've been trying to do, and it's led me to you know, to really draw to God and trust Him and find holistic ways that are natural that you know I can get help now instead of waiting six months to see a doctor, you know, knowing that I need surgery. Like last January was scheduled and it's still not done. Now the bone is healed, they say they can't do the surgery.
SPEAKER_00:So like I'm forced to you know, take my health into my own hands, and that's what I've been doing, is just and that's how I beat the cancer, and that's how I'm gonna keep beating everything else, is just that's been the message of this podcast for a while now is that you know, you have to take your own health into your own hands. You know, a lot of people uh they find they got some kind of a problem. They go to a doctor, and the doctor says, Well, here's what you got to do, and then you gotta schedule this thing. And then all of a sudden they're like a month or two or more without treatment. And then sometimes you slip through the cracks and or something gets canceled, or you know, whatever. And all of a sudden, you know, somebody else is like, Well, we can't do that anymore because your your body healed wrong, or whatever. And uh you can't just take that, like you have to take control and keep trying until you find what you need.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:So you know, you got this bone problem, and we'll get into the cancer in a bit, but um what do you what do you what's your plan of action for that right now?
SPEAKER_02:Uh just isolation movements. Uh I pretty much I'm staying away from any time of type of push-pull type of movement. Uh-huh. Uh, there's pretty much only three to different degree angles that I can put I can work my arm in because of the displacement. So I'm working on those, you know, doing uh shoulder work uh with bands and stuff, and that's strengthening the inner interterior, uh which are your slow twitch muscles, or your fast twitch muscles or your slow fi the muscle fibers that attach to the bone to the muscles. So I'm strengthening those now and it's getting better, but um we have uh an appointment the 34th 1st, so we'll find out from there. Okay, I've been playing doctors is getting, you know, just what I tell everybody is to research your condition. All right, that's the best thing I can tell anybody, and then go from there. And that's that's what I've done. Those are the things that I I'm not on WMD web or anything like that. I just look up my condition in holistic ways that it can help. And I really feel that everyone should grow get into the into growing because it really, you know, this it really teaches you a lot about who you are as a person or who we are, you know, and how we function. And what you know it's kind of like raising a raising a child, you know, you don't know what to do. Correct. And the reason why I say that is because we're all built from the same minerals and and that. So balancing our body with pH level, giving us the right nutrients, and and and sunlight. You do those three things, the body can heal from anything.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, just going outside. You know, um, we we call it uh therapeutic horticulture. And you know, the idea is just get outside in nature and work with it, and like you said, you know, just taking care, planting a seed or or preparing a space in the ground, taking the time to know what that plant needs and giving it that love and care, being outside, breathing the fresh air, and and you share energy with these plants that you're taking care of, you know. And yes, you're watering them, and then they're turning around giving you something. You maybe you can't see it or hear it or feel it, but it's it's happening, and you always feel better after you've been outside working in the garden a little bit.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. And and the re to touch on that, like when you're researching it and finding out, well, what how can I if I have a cold, but what do I What can I do to get rid of that? You know, and that's pretty much what I was dealing with all the issues is just proper pH balance and then the bolly and and pushing a lot of super greens. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, because I going through the process in the beginning, I didn't I could I had to stay away from the the the sugar from fruit as well. Right.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, as long as you're eating the whole fruit, you know, if you if you just uh fiber, then it's a whole different thing. But if you're getting the whole fruit or if you make juice, make sure you got all that pulp in there too, because that's what helps it to disperse slowly into your body and not just overrun you with a bunch of sugar.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so she's really been supportive in like all the changes around, like as far as groceries and everything that we've had to like throw out and and the new way of eating. It's been quite a challenge, but uh she's very supportive, and and now she's it actually doing you know what I'm doing, and she's feeling better. She actually likes it. So I just feel that if we can we can we can change how we feel or how we interact with each other just based on nutrients.
SPEAKER_00:I couldn't agree more. I think that's uh one of the fundamental pillars of health, um uh aligned with um stress management, sleep, and and a few others. Um, I think that exercise, movement, um, community, uh, all of those things together will find a pathway to health for just about anybody. I know that we're running low on time for this episode, but I want to introduce your uh just to touch on your journey with cancer, and um you know, you're going through all of this issue with your shoulder and your neck and and not being able to breathe and not being able to move and the pain and all of this stuff, and then all of a sudden something else pops up. Why don't you share just a little bit about that? And then maybe next episode we can walk through that whole journey with you.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, it this started probably around a little over four, maybe four and a half months ago. It was when we we flew to New York. Uh, I just I wasn't really feeling really well, and uh you know, those issues had been going on. I just been was denying it, you know, and it was starting to get you know pretty bad. So I spoke up when we we were in New York, and when we got home, uh I I had to be rushed to the emergency room with pain for the left quadrant uh in my stomach area, the left quadrant. So if it's on the left side, it's your it's your uh your your colon. If it's on, I mean on your right side, it's on your your colon. If it's on the left side, it's your pancreas. Okay. So uh they did an MRI, they did a CT scan and came back saying that I had a large larger than three centimeter uh gallstone, and it was blocking the the tube duct. So they wanted me to have a colonoscopy done, which I'm still waiting for. Oh wow, and and everything, and I just said, here we go again, you know, like uh I already have cancer, you know, now, and now I I have this on top of it, and I was just starting to lose my mind a little bit.
SPEAKER_00:So when when they diagnosed the cancer, did they do a biopsy or what how did they determine that you had this a tumor or whatever?
SPEAKER_02:Well, when I had the uh CT scan and MRI done, oh okay, it it revealed the gold stone and uh end up going and seeing my doctor, which was my new PCM through the VA. Got it. They're your primary care doctor, what what they call them. Uh he's he uh reassured me that all my blood work and everything came back good and nothing was metatistic, meaning that the cancer or whatever hadn't moved anywhere, hadn't moved anywhere.
SPEAKER_00:That's the best news you could get.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, meaning that it it hadn't uh spread. Right. So uh I just I started thinking, well, my mom passed a pancreatic cancer, right? My which on the paperwork says in her in her left intestine, but that's where it originated, and when they biopsied, it spread. So it went to the pancreas, and that's where it just within a few days she was gone. Um but uh she had a hip a history of uh gallstones and things like that, so that which could be a a really good uh episode to do on hereditary inheritance and you know on uh DNA structure because those are things that we pass on to our children.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um which can be corrected, but it has to be corrected with the prior generation, which is us.
SPEAKER_00:Catch it early, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And that's because you're still living, because we're uh you know, so if we're still we we can we can end up taking care of that so they don't they don't have to worry about it. So this is like like a blueprint and and changing that. And I I truly feel that um understanding what my mom's issues were that I could possibly have. Um and I just started, you know, it these things started popping up. My cult, I had a I had a gallstone, she's had those, she had the pancreatic cancer, you know. It just was too many clues. Right. Started digging into you know how how can I beat this? Yeah, it's been uh cucumber juice and really pH balancing my my system, uh overloading the chlorophyll, you know, in my cells and cellularly hydrating my my tissues. Um it it it that's the beginning of life, you know, is is how plants grow and it's and they get this uh photosynthesis from the light, you know, or the sun. Well, when there's that vibrant green, that's the pH, you know, balance.
SPEAKER_00:So if we're acidic, our blood is that same life force you're drinking it in, and it's uh it's it's feeding you the same way it it it grew all those vegetables.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. So I I needed to saturate my my cellular you know structure with the right nutrients to see if I could, you know, battle and and do this. And it it's been working, and I'm still here, and the doctors are, you know, especially my new PS PCM, he he's just like blown away that what I've been dealing with, uh I'm not dealing with.
SPEAKER_00:So no, I I I couldn't agree more, and and you know, you're going at it the way you need to from all directions. And just because you know you you're taking care of yourself with some vegetables and supplements and whatnot doesn't mean you don't keep moving forward with the doctor stuff, because the doctors can do some stuff that, you know, once you have a problem, like if you got a gallstone or a kidney stone or a whatever the thing is, your body sometimes has a real hard time getting rid of that all by itself. Or there are tools that could be used with ultrasound or or whatever they they the different things they have that can break it all up and and make it so that it can pass without you know killing you in the process. So you're doing it, in my opinion, the best way. You got to be diligent and you gotta keep on those doctors, but you don't stop there, you know, you keep on researching and learning. And I think when we do the next episode, I want to talk about all the different um people that have come into your um into your orbit. You know, you've met all these different uh people that are working with different medicines and different supplements and fruits and and um and and you know, finding your way to these answers and then you know walk us through that whole journey.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, that'd be that that'd be awesome because I think it's it's uh I I don't think just the way that I heal myself is for everybody. I I I I do believe that the cancer is something that does affect an individual in different parts of the body. And knowing that is is the right structure of where you can attack it, because if you can know the right source to attack, then you're pretty much you know better off any if you have that ammo available to you. And nine times out of ten, when somebody's dealing with any type of cancer issue or any type of uh debilitating disease, they don't know where to start, right? So, like yours, your your yours was in your in the lymphatic system, you know, and lymph nodes and that, and you know, it and cleansing through what you have gone through has helped you beat what you what is attacking your your lymphatic system. Sure. So with mine, it's an intestinal, so it's more of a central nervous system intact. So, you know, I I do believe sharing our messages, putting the information out there that we provide that is helped us, those are the right tools because what we're really doing, Joe, it's not out there, you know. Oh, I agree. And this is uh a natural way under God, our bodies are designed to handle and and and deal with, you know, that we're we're being misinterpreted and misinformed on the right knowledge to you know to heal ourselves.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and I also think that like my message isn't do what I did and you'll cure your cancer. My message is this is what I did, and I can teach you how to find your answer too. Exactly. And and you know, your answer might be a little different than mine, or maybe some of the things I do will be instrumental in helping you, but maybe you got to do a couple of things different that I didn't have to do. But just being aware of how to find that information and how to evaluate, how to consider sources of information and that sort of thing, I think it's instrumental in anybody finding their way to health.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, it's just like you know, I'm I'm I'm a Marine, you know, pri prior, you know, and one of the things I could put is like a uh subliminal message to think about is like when you you attack, is when when we're in the Marines and we were under fire, we we get in a little huddled, uh planet attack if we were gonna do a raid or whatever, we would draw it out. And it wasn't just from the lieutenant, you know, we're gonna do this and this is how we're gonna do it, because sometimes that doesn't work out. So we would all put our put all our input into it and and and then come to a term to where okay, this is an attack and we can we can move forward now. You know, it's everybody's input to take care of one goal. And I think that you know, there's plenty of ammunition that we could provide or help somebody else figure figure out you know their battle plan and on on their field as well.
SPEAKER_00:I couldn't agree more. Well, Richard, it's been an absolute treat. And uh I know we we burn up time so quickly in our conversations, and uh I'm I'm really looking forward to uh getting back into a routine of us talking about um our lives and our health, and and uh you know it's it's it's creating a beacon that other people can find uh answers. And you know, it I know you work with people. Is there um is there a way that people can reach you if somebody's listening to this and going, well, I want to talk to Richard and and and learn more. How can somebody get a hold of you?
SPEAKER_02:Uh yeah, they can reach out through email or uh online at Irish I had C B D. You can just you know contact me there or on the yellow footprint fitness page on Facebook. Okay, or you can just email me at r mcclifefitness at gmail, and we we can go from there. Um I I would like to start you know doing a lot more that way. We could set up like a a simple consistency of routine. I know that's pretty much been on my part with the everything that I've had to deal with, but uh I can breathe, I can talk, you know, so I'm demonstrating now while I have that you know comfort to be able to do those things. So I'm looking forward to you know talking to you more and and getting things on the right path.
SPEAKER_00:I love it, I love it. All right, Richard. Well, I appreciate you coming back, and uh, we look forward to uh spending a lot more time together here in this platform. And uh this has been another episode of the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine. I want to thank all of our listeners for making this show possible, and we will see you next time.
