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Your Legacy Is Written Through Daily Choices with Mitchell Osmond
What happens when a high-achieving professional realizes his success at work has come at the cost of everything else that matters? Mitchell Osmond's powerful story begins at rock bottom—60 pounds overweight, $100,000 in debt, and a marriage crumbling around him.
Two pivotal moments changed everything: a fight that brought his marriage to the brink of divorce, and a funeral where he heard the minister ask a question that shook him to his core: "Are you living a life worthy of imitation?" Mitchell realized with painful clarity that nobody would want to imitate his life. That day, he made a decision to start writing new chapters to his story.
Within 18 months, Mitchell completely transformed his life by surrounding himself with men who were already living the life he wanted to create. He lost the weight, paid off the debt, rebuilt his marriage, and discovered a new mission—helping other high-performing men bridge the gap between career success and personal fulfillment through his Dad Nation movement.
During this revealing conversation, Mitchell shares the frameworks that drive his coaching practice, including the "Iron Five" concept of strategic mentorship and the powerful exercise of writing your own eulogy from your loved ones' perspective. He explains why 95% of our decisions are made on autopilot and how breaking that pattern requires both clarity about what we truly want and accountability from others who will hold us to that standard.
Whether you're struggling with work-life balance, searching for greater meaning, or simply wanting to leave a legacy you can be proud of, Mitchell's journey offers both inspiration and practical steps toward transformation. As he reminds us, there's a 100% chance we'll all draw our last breath someday—the only question is whether those final moments will be filled with regret or gratitude.
Ready to write new chapters to your own story? Download Mitchell's free resource, "The Connection Code" with 50 questions to spark meaningful conversations with your partner at dadnationco.com/code.
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Well, hello and welcome back to the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, joe Grumbine, and today we have with us a very special guest. His name is Mitchell Osmond and he's a trusted advisor, a leadership consultant, executive coach and host of the Dad Nation Podcast. He's got over 15 years in senior leadership and he helps high-performing men achieve success where it matters most at home in their health, in their happiness and while enhancing their career success. Mitchell has guided executives, entrepreneurs and driven professionals to bridge the gap between career achievement and personal fulfillment, and this fits just right on in with Healthy Living Mitchell, welcome to the show. How are you?
Speaker 2:doing today. I'm doing well, Joe. Thank you so much for having me on the show. I'm looking forward to having this conversation, brother.
Speaker 1:Likewise. Likewise, we were talking a little bit before, and just recently we had at my non-profit Gardens of Hope, a men's circle, and that was the first time we did something like that. We've worked with women's groups before, all sorts of different groups, but I really feel that men working on themselves is an important, needed element in humanity right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And that's actually exactly why I started the Danation Movement as well, because I noticed, I mean, I was a byproduct of that struggling. You know, I was 60 pounds overweight and we were 100 grand in debt. My marriage was on the verge of divorce. I mean, it was a very difficult time and I suffered in silence for a long time. That's what we do.
Speaker 2:I suffered in silence for a long time before I had the courage to reach out, and when I did, and when I got myself around a community of men, everything changed, and so I'm a byproduct of that work, and so I couldn't agree more with you, joe.
Speaker 1:I love it. So you know I lost about 50 pounds about eight years ago and you know I found myself in and out of financial problems and marital problems and you know I've always sort of found my way through it. But I've always reached out and strove to build a community. And that's really what this podcast is all about is building a diverse community. And you know, with the elements of all these different groups intact, that we can, you know, branch off and work on ourselves. So I'm really excited that you went down this one road, because you know it is. You take on too many things and you can get so much done, but when you keep your focus more narrow, you can really move mountains. So tell me where you know how you went from there. It must have been a moment where you know you realized, holy shit, I'm in a bad place and, like you say, we suffer in silence. It's our, it's what we're taught to do. You know, just sit there and take it and at one point you're like that's not working.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and I think it's a great starting point for the conversation and for me. You know that, that turning point, you know there were two for me actually, the first one was a fight and so, and the second one was a funeral. Okay, so, the first one being the fight, I want you to picture with me. You know, I was sitting on the couch with my wife and we had been married for three years under this point and we had a huge fight. It started off fighting about money, and then it was something else, about my me not being present and it spiraled. And, to give you some context, we've been married only married for three years, but it was a very difficult season. Um, we struggled through the whole three years. But this fight, this day, was different and I knew deep down that if I didn't change something, this was all going to be over. You know, uh, we had, we'd always said we'd never use the D word, you know, divorce in our marriage, and that day is the first day we did Wow and to, to.
Speaker 2:To give you some context, you know, coming leading up to that day, I had recently been let go in a senior leadership position. My career was everything to me Joe. It was my calling, it was my identity. I mean, it was all wrapped into that. So I spiraled into depression. I was 60 pounds overweight, like I said, 100 grand in debt. I was medicating with drugs and alcohol every day to try and just cope and now I was getting dangerously close to divorce. I was checked out, stressed out, burned out and I didn't quite understand Joe, like I was, I was. I was so powerful at work and I was powerless at home. Like I could go to work, I could build organizations, I could lead teams, lead board meetings. But I came home and I didn't even know how to talk to my own wife.
Speaker 2:And there was this tension that I was facing, you know, and, and at times it felt like, uh, there was this tension that I was facing, and at times it felt like there was like this I was two different people. There was this duality that I was wrestling with, and I knew where I had come from. I knew that I wanted something different, but I just didn't know how to make the change. And I mean, where I came from was I mean, I was raised in a dysfunctional home, you know, I had a non-existent relationship with my father. Alcohol, drugs, crime, abuse were just littered throughout my family, and so the problem was was that I was letting these unhealed wounds bleed into my marriage and I began to torpedo my life as a result of this unhealed trauma. And one of my favorite quotes is if you don't transform your pain, you will transmit it, and that's what I was doing. I was transmitting my pain to those that I love the most, and when I would yell, I could hear my father's voice, his words, and so that was the first point, that big fight. And then, one week later, was the second turning point, and this was the funeral part of the story.
Speaker 2:Now I was invited to sing at the funeral of this very wealthy, philanthropic man and I'll never forget. You know, after talking about all of his accomplishments and all he did in his life, you know, I was sitting side stage and I was getting ready to sing the last song and I heard the minister ask the congregation. He said Are you living a life worthy of imitation? If you were to die tomorrow, would you be proud of the legacy that you left? And, joe, for me, I was trying to get myself together and sing the last song and I could barely choke out the lyrics because I was. All I could think was, if this were my funeral, nobody would be saying they wanted to imitate my life. Nobody would be saying I want to have, I want to have a marriage like his, or he inspired me to get into shape, or he inspired me how to steward my finances. Well, they would probably say he struggled and then it was over and it was a sad reality.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing about funerals is people tell stories because that's all that they have left. And that day, joe, I was determined. I said by the time I leave this church, I'm going to start writing new chapters to my story. I'm going to start writing new chapters to my story. This ends with me, and so I immediately, you know, within a, within a week or so, I started reaching out to men in my life. Uh, and they surrounded me, men who, who my ceiling was their floor, you understand, people who were living where I wanted to go.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:People who would would not only show me what's possible, but they would hold me to the standard that I said I wanted for my family.
Speaker 1:You're blessed to have those people in your circle, though. That's incredible, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:And so within 18 months, a year and a half, I paid off the a hundred grand grand of debt, completely restored our marriage, paid off the or uh lost the 60 pounds. It was totally clear, focused and free of distractions, alcohol, you know all that stuff. And then what happened? I mean, those were my two turning points. But then I started helping friends around me you know guys who who were also struggling on marriage or in debt or had a hard time losing, uh losing, you know, you name it Right. And then one of my mentors challenged me. He said, man, if you really want to have impact, you want to live a legacy or live a life worthy of imitation. Start a podcast and start sharing your story with the world. Absolutely Exactly. And so, just out of obedience, I did that and within 18 months, you know, the Dad Nation podcast was globally rated top 10% across the world.
Speaker 2:And, yeah, today I have over 33,000 listeners.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:And then they all started. Some of the people started chiming in and being like, hey, would you help, would you coach, would you teach me what you did? And I'd already been doing it with all my friends for free along the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's our progression.
Speaker 2:Exactly so. Then I launched the coaching practice, Dad Nation, the coalition, and so now I just do coaching and executive advising to high-performing men who want to reclaim their home, their health and their happiness. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1:What a beautiful story. Yeah, that's what got me here, man. So what's the timeline on this? When was it that you were at that funeral? How long ago?
Speaker 2:This would have been about eight years ago.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, so you're about six and a half years into this journey. That's fantastic. Wow, all I can say is I'm proud of you, man. Thank you, what a great story. You clearly have a legacy that you're leaving behind now and you're so young you're still just getting started.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just warming up.
Speaker 1:I love it, I love it. So tell me a little bit about your family. This is a dad podcast, so I'm assuming you have some children.
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure. So that's interesting because before I was a biological father, I held many father kind of roles and I know you'll probably find this interesting. But because of the fact that I had said I came from this dysfunctional family, part of that was my older sister. I was the baby boy of two older sisters. One of them ended up marrying an alcoholic and another alcoholic, and so on and so forth. She had three daughters and all three of them struggled with drug addiction, suicide ideation, attempts, alcoholism, things like that, anxiety, and so at different points me and my wife took in three of my nieces to help them recover from their addiction or from their anxiety.
Speaker 2:I've picked up one of my nieces several times from a mental health institution where she had attempted suicide, and so before we even became parents, we had years of experience walking alongside these teenage girls and showing them what love looked like, showing them how to respect themselves, showing them what a healthy family looked like, and before I even became a dad, and so I'm actually a fairly new father. Like, we have one son. He's 20 months old, he's almost two years old.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, You're just getting started. I love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so I've been taking everything that I've learned along the way and just been pouring into him and at the end of the day, man, that's why I started this.
Speaker 2:It was kind of for selfish reasons, because I said to myself, if I have any shot at being a great husband and a great father one day, then I need to surround myself with other men who were doing the same thing, who were going after the same goals, and so the best way to learn something is to teach it.
Speaker 2:And so that's kind of how I got into this space, because I want so badly to be the best husband I can be, to be the best husband I can be, to be the best father I can be and to leave a legacy that's worthy of imitation, so that my son one day, when he grows up and should I have a daughter you know she will grow up to I'm going to do my best to model greatness for them, because we know statistically that, for example, if I have a daughter one day, she's going to grow up to crave the attention of a man that looks just like me. And so my best chance at, you know, if I want my daughter to bring home a great man. One day I need to model that greatness for her so that she can recognize it in someone else when she sees it.
Speaker 2:So that's my mission, man, and that's why I'm here. I love it.
Speaker 1:I love it, wow. So one of the things that you've brought up, you've got some amazing points. I clearly walk in your walk. You understand, you know we, as we go through that. I'm a serial entrepreneur, so I've been paving my own way, building things and crashing and burning, picking up. You know it's a it's a different, different route. I've done a little corporate stuff but for the most part I'm just, you know, a figure it out myself guy. But along the way my goal has always been to be my best me and to you know, to be the best father, now the best grandfather and, you know, husband and all of this.
Speaker 1:I got 30 years under the hood with my wife and you know we've got some great times and some not so great times. You know, when you say those vows for better or for worse, well, that's life and I think that that's part of you know. The part they don't tell you about with any of this stuff is you're going to have hills and valleys, no matter who you are, no matter what you do, whether you're rich or poor or sick or well. All those things, those vows actually have meaning and just like life. But there are things that, like you talked about in your community. Like I can remember my mom telling me, you know, about the kids, my friends. I was hanging around, you know, and she always tried to make sure I had, you know, good people around me and that's so important. You know, we think that we're autonomous and we think that we think for ourselves and all this and we do. We make our own choices, but we're so influenced by the people around us and when you find somebody that's depressed or lost or chaotic or destructive or whatever the issue is drugs, alcohol, whatever that stuff bleeds into you like, no, like, like in no time. You know, because we connect with these people that are with us and we start sharing our energy, our thoughts and, for you know, our habits and I became well aware of you know I hung out with some people that weren't weren't so good for me and I became well aware of. You know I hung out with some people that weren't so good for me and I looked at the direction. You know you sit back 50 years later and you're like, oh, wow, I can see the course. You know it's like you're driving around on a boat that's not got a real strong engine and you know you kind of direct your course, but a little wind blows and you go off that way. Kind of direct your course, but a little wind blows and you go off that way.
Speaker 1:And I really think that this community I've felt a calling to build a community all my life and I've struggled, I picked wrong people and you know people come and go and you know, but finally I think I'm building something solid right now that I can feel the strength of it and the things you were talking about, people that fit into all sides of it. There's people that I can help, the strength of it and the things you were talking about, people that fit into all sides of it. There's people that I can help and there's people that are helping me. And it's like a big cable. We're all holding on to it, we're all being pulled up a little bit and we're all pulling the guy below us up a little bit. And I think when you can have that whether you build it or find it or land in it, however it happens, or even just recognize that you know we all have that to some degree and recognize the value of it and engage it maybe is the key. There's such a tremendous value in that Like just to have somebody that holds you accountable, is such an incredible power, because doing it all yourself is so much work and it's just too easy to let go for a minute and give yourself a day off.
Speaker 1:But you can't. There's no days off, right? I mean, you know, when it comes to morals and values and doing things right, you're either doing it or you're not. There's no, you know God doesn't have days off. We doing things right. You're either doing it or you're not. There's no, you know God doesn't have days off. We don't have days off. It's not like that.
Speaker 1:And I think it's important. Like you know some of the support groups for alcoholics or drug abusers or suicide depression, whatever it is you know you have a sponsor or somebody that you can call up when you know you have a moment of weakness or whatnot, that's, it's that same principle. I'm not particularly the guy that supports those kinds of things directly. Everything works for everybody differently, but the idea of a sponsor or somebody who is there for you, I think is just huge. I think that's a huge piece. And then also when somebody looks to you for that role, like you say, when you teach, you learn. When you're held accountable, you stand up and you represent, because it's a different thing when you're the only one relying on you, or that other person is like looking to you, going, hey, am I doing all right? Well, you got to be standing tall when they're looking at you for that. So I think both ways are really really important in guiding us.
Speaker 1:You know, first we got to decide what we want and want. That road that we're on or that they're on, you know, so we can travel with them and then help the next one travel down it with us. But once we make that decision, it doesn't necessarily make it easier. It just means we kind of know where we solid ground when you know there's somebody there that you can rely on, maybe that knows that they've been through what you're going through, or maybe they know how to you know, we go through these journeys where we're just like I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm going to make these decisions as I go.
Speaker 1:But there's something that says, well, there's this guy here. If I run into this really difficult spot, I can. I can say, hey, what do you think? You know, I think that's, that's just absolutely huge. So I'm, I'm, I really want the listeners to get the impact of that, because I really think that you know, the podcast is amazing because you now have an avenue to share your experiences with 30,000 people and you just don't ever know how far that's going to reach, who that's going to reach. You know, it's like, I would say, those of us that are trying to make change for ourselves and others. We're like a little lighthouse.
Speaker 2:You know you got a little light on and it's going on, but as you reach more people, the light gets a little brighter and more people can find you, more people can find answers, more people you can do more good and in in turn, you learn more and you can provide more, and it just keeps growing yeah, absolutely, and I think the the challenge, though so many, especially men, you know, and I again, because I work with men so much, I'll speak to the men but we wrestle with this because there is this lone wolf mentality that a lot of men struggle with and we think, well, we're just going to figure this out on our own, and you know, I'm going to grind it out, and when I bring my head up, y'all will see. You know, and you know, I get it. And I think that some people think there's a sort of nobility in that of like I'm a self-made man, I'm a fill in the blank. No one is a self-made man, I'm a fill in the blank. No one is a self-made man, for the record. If you believe that it's a fallacy, um, but I would say the lone wolf dies alone. Strong wolves build packs, for sure. And the challenging thing is is it's hard to fight that, because it requires us to lay our egos down, it requires us to lay our pride aside, you know, and to say, uh, I could really use some extra feedback or some help. So let me give you some context.
Speaker 2:I was floundering in this point in my life because all I had known was these leadership positions and I ended up working, doing general contracting, working as a laborer, and I was working on this guy's house and he multiple properties, multiple businesses, very wealthy man rolled up in his Porsche, but he seemed to be a really nice guy. I was literally carrying a bucket of bricks when I came up to talk to him and I said, hey, you know his name was Richard. I said, hey, richard, I know we don't know each other that well, I'm just labor working on your house, but I'm like you seem like you've done very well financially and I just I admire you, man. You have a beautiful family. Would you be willing to and this is a bit of a moonshot, but would you be willing to connect with me and just maybe once a quarter or once a month, grab a coffee, grab a beer? I would love to learn from you.
Speaker 2:You know, how did you acquire this wealth? How did you do this? And he looked at me and I'll never forget it, like it took me forever to get the courage to choke at the words. And he looked at me.
Speaker 1:He said I would absolutely love to wow and in fact he said, when works for you wow, well, kudos on both of you now just to have the courage to do that. That's not a. You know those, those folks I I was a painter for 20 years. I worked on a lot of really wealthy folks, homes and most of these guys you know they roll up and they've got this. You know presence and you know people around them and all these things and. But you know you come to find out if you're just a regular person and you just treat everybody the same.
Speaker 2:A lot of them are just regular, regular humans, just like the rest of us yeah, and you know it's interesting, you know, and he taught me this, you know, uh, and and I've actually built a framework around it I called the iron five. So every one of my clients, uh, everyone in my community has their own iron five, which is their five men who surround them, which we can break or break down a little later if you want. But essentially what what he taught me was? He said listen, mitchell, has anyone ever asked you for advice? I said yeah yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:He said how did that make you feel? I said, well, it felt good. I was humbled, flattered. He said, well, would you have actually even gone out of your way to make time to meet with this person who asked for your advice? I said, yeah, sure, because I'd love to help. So he said well, what makes you think you're any different? Reaching out to anyone else for help? Right, like you reached out to me, and that's the thing Joe is is our pride gets in the way, or we think that we're going to be a burden? Right, but here's the thing Anyone who's ahead of you in their marriage, their finances and the fitness and their mindset you know, you name it they understand how much it takes to get to where you want to go, and so they're not going to criticize you.
Speaker 2:The only people who are going to criticize you are the people that are well behind you. You know what. Those might be haters, they might be victims, whatever, but they're not going to be where you're going, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, exactly, it's relevant to you. Yeah, exactly, reach up, reach out and have those men rally around you or, if you're listening to your woman, women rally around you and to show you what's possible and that you know there's so much other, there's a lot more nuance to it than that.
Speaker 2:But at the end of the day, you don't have to and you don't have to get into like a community like mine or, you know, hire me as a coach or whatever. You could simply just reach out into your circle and that's all I did. I looked at around my circle. I said who has the best marriage that I know? Who has the who's in the best shape that I know? Who has who's who's the most wealthy that I know in my own sphere of influence? And then I found those five guys and I just reached out like that and I tell you what they weren't like, these crazy high level people, but they were quite a few steps ahead of me. They gave me the starting steps, they gave me the places to begin and then, from there on, I took it forward right and here I am today. But it all starts with that decision and that, at the end of the day, joe is ownership.
Speaker 1:That's ownership.
Speaker 2:Right Saying like my. My moment at the funeral was like you know what? My wife is not going to take the bottle from me. You know my kids aren't going to take the pack of leaders at the at the cheerleader at the gym a pack of cheerleaders at the gym parking lot cheering me on to be there to work out. Is that going to happen? I got to take ownership.
Speaker 2:It's always going to be challenging, and so until I learn that I, that the cavalry is not coming, that I have to take ownership, then nothing's ever going to change, because we know that 95 of the decision and this is evidence we know that 95 of the decisions we make today are the same as the ones we made yesterday. So we live the vast majority of our lives on autopilot and this is why, going back to what you mentioned in the beginning of the episode, this is why we just wake up one day and all of a sudden, it's been five years, it's been 10 years. So what you need to do is take those thoughts captive and get out of that rut and be like. What does it look like to take ownership, to get present, to get focused on where I'm going, because if I don't, no one's going to do it for me, and if I don't, I'm going to wake up 10 years from now and wonder why I am where I am. Because that's just a reality, and so that's what I would encourage your listeners with this morning.
Speaker 1:So I'd like to hear a little bit about your program. I know we're getting a little low on time and I want to understand. You know you've talked about so many amazing points and humility and ownership. I think accountability is a gigantic part of all of this and you know there's some tools that I've used about looking at the future, to how do I know what I want to be and identifying those things. It all boils down to decisions. You've got a pretty well thought out program and usually there are sort of pillars of support that cause this program to be what it is. Why don't you tell us a little bit about how that works?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I mean, I could tell you. I'll tell you what I'll tell you about how I serve men. You know the different offerings I have. But first let me just let me explain to you one of the first places I start with men, because you can if you're listening to this today, you can take this and use it for yourself.
Speaker 2:One of my clients called me up before I hired him. He was in tears and he said you know, this guy is a seven-figure earner, multimillionaire. And he calls me. He says he's in tears and he's like my wife. I just found out that my wife has a bunch of runaway money saved up. She got a down payment on another place and she's going to take the girls.
Speaker 2:He said I drink about a dozen beers a day. I'm pre-diabetic, and he's like when my wife gets home from work, I go to my own room and I drink myself to sleep and he's like what is wrong with me? And and I drink myself to sleep? And he's like what is wrong with me? And we started having this. So he hired me, we started having a conversation and I said to him I said, mark, what do you want? He said I don't know and I'll tell you, joe, 90% of the guys I talk to can't answer that question. So then the next question was well, let's actually determine what that is. So one of the first things I do with my clients is I get them to write their own eulogy from the perspective of their wife or their children, and this is called beginning with the end in mind.
Speaker 2:Napoleon Hill talks about this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I recognize that, yeah.
Speaker 2:Exactly. We begin with the end in mind, and so that's my funeral moment. That's exactly what the minister asked that question and all of a sudden I had a flash to the end of my life, and so what we do is we say, okay, if you were to die today, I want you to picture your wife standing over your casket. It sounds a little bit morbid, but it's very visceral and powerful.
Speaker 1:I want you to write the eulogy for her.
Speaker 2:What would she say about the husband? You were, the father you were. About the employer you were, you name it. And then let's write a 2.0 version. And now, if you were every bit the man that you were called to be, that you were living at 100% of your potential, what would she say about you then? And let's identify those gaps, because that gap between who you are right now and who you want to be, that's where your attention lies, that's where your frustration is. So that's where we begin. And then, basically and it's always like I want to be a better dad, I want to be a better husband, I want to be more present, all those different things, whatever.
Speaker 2:So, going back to this question with Mark, I said well, these are the things that you want, these are what you say you want, but this is what your actions say you want. Your actions say you work 16 hours a day. Your actions say work is more important than your wife. Your actions say your cell phone is more important than your kids because you're usually on that instead of playing with them on the toy mat. Your actions say Big Macs are more important to you than your fitness because you eat more burgers than you do train your physical body. So why is it that your actions are actually not in alignment with what you say you want? And that's the journey we start we. We start aligning what, what our current actions are with the things that we said we wanted. And we don't get that clarity until we go right to the end and we say hey, when you're going to be taped, because there's a hundred percent chance that you're going to draw your last breath right.
Speaker 2:spoiler alert yeah, they're going to happen to every one of us, yep. So what do you want to be the thoughts in the last few moments you're breathing? Do you want them to have regret? You'd be be filled with regret or do you want to be filled with gratitude? Right, because you get to be filled with gratitude. Right, because you get to choose. So let's now reverse engineer that into today daily action, steps and strategies to become that man. Does that make sense? It makes great sense. So that's kind of where I would start with a lot of my clients. Right, I like it.
Speaker 1:I like it, I really align with your thinking. You found out some things at a point in your life that I hadn't even begun to consider until I got a whole lot older. So it seems that we've walked along some of the same roads. I was just 20 years in front of you, age-wise, but it's all good. I I am really grateful that you're doing what you do, and how does your um call it practice work? Um, do people come to you in person? Is it? Um? Uh, virtually both. How do you guys?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a great question. Thank you for asking, joe. Um, I tell people I I serve men three different ways. So, real simple, three C's, okay. First one is the content. So it's the Dad Nation podcast. It's simple, you can listen whatever. The second one is courses, which I have an online program called the High Performance Husband, which is really everything that I teach my one-to-one clients. It's just in an online digital program, self-guided, right Now. That's good if you want to kick the tires, but the best option is the third C, which is coaching.
Speaker 2:Now we do group coaching. It's called the Dad Nation Coalition and we meet every two weeks and we have group coaching calls and we do have conversations just like this, where we come in I teach a framework, a concept, and then we have some conversation around it. We break out into rooms and discuss and, you know, apply it in real time. Anyone who's in the community also gets access to all the other stuff, like the course I mentioned, and so, and then for the right person who really wants to go to the next level, I'll offer one-to-one coaching as well, but that's typically what my services look like. So anywhere, wherever you are on that spectrum, you know whether you want a free podcast to listen to, or if you want to go all the way to invest in yourself and back yourself financially, then I can. We can have that conversation about what it looks like to work one-on-one or in a group setting with you.
Speaker 1:Fantastic. Well, we're running about out of time, but I am just as I suspected, this was a great conversation and it opens the door to further ones. I would love to have you come back sometime and maybe go deep on a conversation on a topic, and you know, I like to have the first interview just sort of wide open door, see where we go. But most of my guests have a profound experience with some of these things and to go deep into a specific topic sometimes can really have a special effect in meeting. So I'd love to invite you back to do that one day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course, and you know what, just if you're okay with this, I'd love to give your listeners a free gift, if that's okay. Today, sure, yeah. So, as we talked about, a lot of men wrestle in marriage and really, in the context of emotions, right, a lot of women. I know, I heard it for years. I feel like I'm married to a robot, you know, and women need to be connected with emotionally, and so what I did is I created, after coaching all these men, I've created something called the Connection Code, and all this is is 50 questions that are strategically designed to spark the fun and bring the fire back in your relationship. So, if you feel like you went from soulmates to roommates, you know this is for you and it's totally free, and the only rule is whenever whether is you, you go out on a date night or you put the kids down and pour up a glass of wine, you just take three or four questions off this list and ask your partner and it's gonna.
Speaker 2:it's gonna just help you connect with her so much deeper than you were before. I get emails from women all the time saying like who is this man that took me out and these questions? It's been amazing. So totally free for you and I'll give you the link. But this is dadnationcocom forward slash code and if you could put the link in the show notes, just.
Speaker 1:I certainly will, absolutely. Yeah yeah. Why don't you give us your website again and any other contact, and we will include all that in the show notes as well yeah, for sure, thank you, man.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, the website is just dadnationcocom and uh, if you just google that, or if you just google the dad nation podcast, you'll find my website there. Um, or, like I said, the connection code, I'm on instagram, I'm on youtube, but if you just search the dad nation or mitchell osmond'll, you'll find me there.
Speaker 1:I love it. Well, mitchell, this has been an incredible conversation. I'm uh, respect deeply the work you're doing. It's, it's needed, it's important and, um, you're, you're living your life's, calling I'm, I'm, I'm proud and pleased to know you.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much, joe. I really honor you for what you're doing and I love the mission you're on. Thank you for your time. I just had such a great time as well.
Speaker 1:So appreciate you, man, and let's do it again soon, absolutely Well, this has been another edition of the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, joe Grumbine, and I appreciate all the support and we will see you next.
