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Forging a Holistic Path: Conversations on Healing with Megan Edge
Dive deep into the world of holistic healing with Megan Edge, a master healer whose diverse background spans from counseling and metaphysical practices to geology and ethical wildcrafting. Megan's approach to wellness breaks through conventional boundaries, weaving together intuitive energy work, plant medicine, and community building to create lasting transformation.
What sets Megan apart is her Gemini-driven curiosity that has allowed her to develop multiple healing modalities under one powerful umbrella. Having worked in metaphysical fields like astral projections and rune work since 2007, she eventually created her own healing system called Intuitive Energy Massage. Through our conversation, she reveals how childhood experiences with nature-connected parents shaped her path and how significant life challenges eventually led her to take a crucial two-year hiatus to prevent burnout—walking her own talk about the importance of self-care.
The most fascinating aspect of our discussion centers on Megan's relationship with plant medicine. After a profound moment collecting tree resin with her daughter, she recognized the healing potential all around us in the natural world. Unlike pharmaceuticals, Megan explains that plant medicines are "whole entities with energy and spirit," requiring relationship rather than mere extraction. Her ethical foraging practices and botanical formulations through Beyond the Garden Gate share these healing gifts with others, while her foraging tours teach people to recognize medicine and food in their own environments.
We discover remarkable parallels in our life paths, both having diverse career trajectories that ultimately coalesced into purposeful healing practices. Megan's story reminds us that sometimes the universe delivers wake-up calls to realign us with our true purpose. Whether through her counseling, botanical remedies, oracle cards, or certification programs, Megan creates multiple access points for those seeking deeper healing.
Connect with Megan through her website, YouTube channel with over 300 videos, or explore her Heart's Journey Healing Hearts oracle Cards. What healing modality might transform your wellness journey?
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Hello and welcome back to the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, joe Grumbine, and today we have a very special guest. Her name is Megan Edge and very few guests have I interviewed that I've got so much in common with. So I'm looking forward to this interview. But Megan, since 2007, has been helping people through her counseling service, and she focuses on empowerment, deep healing of emotional, energetic and physical trauma. She's worked in the metaphysical fields astral projections, runes, stones, dream work and so much more. She's got many certification programs, along with degrees in social work, women's studies and geology of all things. She's been named a master healer, a generational forger, and this is something that interests me a lot. She has ethically harvested from the forest since a child and, through her shot beyond the garden state, she shares Mother Nature's healing bounty with her teas, salves and tinctures. She's also the creator of the Heart's Journey, healing Hearts, oracle Cards and Guidebook. Megan, welcome to the show. You've got a wealth of experience and we've got so much to talk about.
Speaker 2:Thank you, joe. I really appreciate it and I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1:Excellent, excellent. So up near Vancouver I suppose you have much more forests than I have down in Southern California, so I'm interested to hear about your foraging exploits. But you know, let's get to know you first. You have this giant wealth of expertise that covers a pretty broad spectrum. It sounds to me like you're pretty ambitious and motivated and have a lot of purpose in your life, which is important. I think we also have that in common. Just tell me a little bit about what brought you to all this.
Speaker 2:Sure, I'd be happy to. I'm a Gemini and I'm starting with that because I am too. Oh are you, oh perfect.
Speaker 1:There we go, I think. I understand a lot more now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. Well, the best quote that I ever have seen for a Gemini came on a bookmark that was given to me for my I don't know 11th birthday, 9th birthday, something like that, and it said Gemini, a busy mind in many places.
Speaker 1:I love it, I love it. I have always equated my I call it a monster my just constant energy and constant wanting to explore and learn since I was a little kid.
Speaker 2:Exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:Every day I wake up ready to go, and I can't wait to go see what's next. Well, in a blur, though, I mean, I tell you what time goes by very fast.
Speaker 2:Well, it sure does, but then also it's so full I mean every single report card I ever brought home as a kid said. Megan is an enthusiastic student and asks lots of questions, but needs more focus in her focus.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they put me in, though they called it the MGM program. We were supposedly gifted, right, but I was always the one put off to the side because I just got in the way of everybody. They had to keep me over there. Then they thought, you know, they told my parents, you know I was probably nine or 10. They says, oh, I think he's hyperactive. We're going to have to, you know, get him evaluated. My parents are like we'll just keep him busy. They were exactly. It was before the Ritalin days, and so we oh well, thank goodness you missed that, because.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's a whole other area that we could talk about. Medicating children to keep them quiet and calm and well-behaved.
Speaker 1:What the yeah, and giving them speed to do it.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's just yeah, but, as I say, that's a whole.
Speaker 1:But anyways, I can now understand your broad spectrum of knowledge because I've got that as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I was also very fortunate to have parents that were very curious about the world. My father was a journalist, became publisher of a major newspaper in Canada, so he was always asking questions, he was always investigating. And my mother was a creative, which I mean that wasn't a word that was used then, but it certainly would apply to her now if she were still with us. So her creativity, her artistic talents, her always wanting to be involved with the environment in some way or another, not as a crusader, but as living in her environment, you know, understanding the plants, understanding the herbs, both of them were foodies. I was very, very fortunate to grow up, I think, with curious parents who wanted to give me experiences of the natural world that as I became an adult I realized, oh, that isn't everyone's experience.
Speaker 1:Exactly, isn't that wild? Yeah, we tend to think that our experience is shared with everybody. And then, as you get out there and start meeting people, you're like later man, why don't you know this? Or why is it that important to you? And just, most people just don't have that sort of thing. So that's very fortunate for you. And so you're exposed to all these things, but still, you know, as a kid kid, I mean I was very rebellious as a kid so a lot of the things my parents wanted to expose me to I rejected and I went after a lot of the things they weren't interested in showing me. Just, it was my nature.
Speaker 1:But um, to get into, you know, herbs and the healing arts, um, that not everybody does, that you know and a lot of people are focused on their own, whatever their own well-being or their own interest, and this is something that affects a lot of people generally, instead of, you know, just yourself.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's, that's very true. And but again, you know, going back to those early childhood influences, I guess because my mother was the kind of person who would bring home the bird with the broken wing or bring in the kid who was picking worms up off the sidewalk after the rainstorm and putting them back in the soggy grass and bringing home the pigeons. And it just became my way of being in the world. And when I was trying to figure out what do I want to be when I grow up, I mean I had a lovely list, including I wanted to be the first female Dalai Lama of Tibet. That may still happen, but probably in a next lifetime.
Speaker 2:But also I always wanted to be a teacher. And I wasn't sure how that was going to unfold Until I realized in my 20s I was always teaching. No matter what kind of job I did whether I was in retail or gardening or landscaping or banking I was always educating people. It mattered to me that they understood what it was that they were doing and what was impacting them, what was affecting them. And especially when I was working at the bank, I did a lot of counseling, a lot of financial counseling with people. The bank I did a lot of counseling, a lot of financial counseling with people and it occurred to me at one point I could be getting paid to offer this support to people in a way that is specifically oriented towards health and healing.
Speaker 1:That's interesting. I found myself in that sort of same situation where people have always asked me you know, what do you? I mean this situation, what should I do? I'm like, why are you asking me? You know, it's like you think about it like that way, but I didn't never really, you know, just told him what I thought. But it's always been that way and I don't have any credentials or degrees or anything. There's like nothing that says this guy should have an answer for you, but about the, what we project, or something that draws that to you.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, for sure there's. There's a personality, that there's an emotion or emoting, that happens. And complete strangers on the bus Suddenly I'm hearing their life story right, or on the airplane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely no, I've got a lot of stuff. So you decided at one point see, I never got to that point, which maybe I ought to but you decided, hey, wait a minute, there's actually a career path here. And how did that? You're in banking. What happened there?
Speaker 2:Well, go backwards a little bit to university and I was doing women's studies and social work and a whole bunch of other courses of interest, including geology, and I knew at that point I wanted to be a counselor for survivors of sexual assault. I really narrowed it down to that understanding and seeing the impact of those sorts of experiences on a person's sense of themselves, right down to the very core only. I realized after working on a crisis line for a year as a trauma counselor that I hadn't done enough of my own work to be able to create a boundary between myself and the women that I was were helping. I would, I would take on their stories and I and I recognized that I needed to do my own work first and that perhaps in my early 20s I was a little too young and a little too inexperienced of the world.
Speaker 2:Yet to really be of service in the way that I deeply wanted to be, to create with my client that deep and permanent healing.
Speaker 2:And I was also in a mainstream education system that had, at least at the time, very limiting ideas about what is possible in healing for that sort of trauma. So I stepped away from that. After I got my degree I actually pivoted into geology, which I love because I love the earth sciences and I love nature and I wanted to have that experience. And then, you know, bopped into a bunch of different areas of work in an effort to discover where I could land. So that was the banking and that was the managing a garden center and I had a daycare for a while and I was doing all of these things with the knowing, the intuitive, knowing that at some point in my life it would all coalesce, it would all become useful in an umbrella sort of not academy, but like an umbrella situation that I would be able to say this is who I am and this is what I do, and every bit of everything I'd ever done would come in handy.
Speaker 1:Wow, you know we share so much in common. I I don't know that I articulated it that well, but I have this crazy resume as well that goes from a wedding venue to a painter, to real estate finance, to I mean all these things. But I always had this, and I don't know how to describe it, but it was like this really far perspective that said, there's this thing happening that all of this is tied together somehow, and I never necessarily knew it or understood it. But you know, now I have a nonprofit where we have a botanical garden that we run, that we offer therapeutic horticulture and education, and that's where it all came together. And now I'm building this community, working with plant medicines and all of these different healers and modalities, and it's literally all coalescing right now under this nonprofit. So again, it seems like we've come to this strange parallel universe here.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, absolutely, and I love that that's what you're doing, because that is totally in alignment with my approach to healing, which is that a holistic approach to healing is what's going to create permanent and deep healing. We can't keep segmenting ourselves, our psyches, our bodies into more and more specialization without having a conversation with each part of ourselves.
Speaker 1:There's no one real solution for anything you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, the toe doctor really does need to talk to the elbow doctor. They shouldn't be going to separate conferences right, oh, 100%, 100%.
Speaker 1:I love the holistic approach and I think it's paramount to, like you said, finding real healing, you know, and lasting, hopefully, but real.
Speaker 2:Exactly and being aware of our environment, physical environment, that that we surround ourselves with, is hugely important and you know there's been this surge lately, in the last decade, of things like forest bathing, earth earthing, grounding, that kind of thing, philosophy which is basically being in the ocean, being in salt water, forest bathing, is going for a walk in the woods. Now, I grew up with all of that, so I remember the first time I heard the term forest bathing, I think what are you talking about? It's a walk in the woods, exactly.
Speaker 1:Then you think about that walk in the woods and how it makes you feel. And you're like walk in the woods and how it makes you feel. And you're like, oh, I see, somebody figured it out.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly. And just last week actually, I was featured in an article in Martha Stewart Magazine about nostalgic gardening and it's this idea that you know, you bring back into your garden space or your balcony or whatever, those plants, those flowers that have memory for you from something significant when you were younger. And my approach to it with the woman who was writing the article was that the healing approach. Right, you know, it's not the technical about what you put in the garden, it's the memory that's invoked in you when you breathe in and you smell the lilacs and you remember. For me it's lilacs and I remember being a little child and looking at lilac flowers and and all of that. And it's just, it's so simple. And yet, because it's so simple, I think it gets overlooked in the healing journey. So the fact that you've created a botanical garden with horticultural therapy at the base of it is it's just, it's so beautiful and the key of it is that the premise is simple Every healing modality or activity is enhanced by nature.
Speaker 1:It's really just that simple and, like what you're talking about, there's science behind it. The limbic system is the part of your brain that connects sense with memory. So you smell this thing and it takes you back to your great grandma's house when you were four years old. And it's just that scent that chemically connects this to your memory. And it's science. But to look at it in a practical way, that just says you know, put this thing that somehow connects you. It doesn't really matter how it works right, it's just that it works.
Speaker 2:That's exactly it. And you know, when I look at healing as a modality, like the wholeness of healing, it is not rocket science, it's fresh air, it's clean water, it's good food, good nourishing food, it's community. You just have to look at the blue zones, you know why.
Speaker 1:I mean, I know why science has to dissect it and all of that. But time, go outside, put your face up to the sun, get some vitamin d, it's free, it's free. Go talk to somebody. You know the connection, you know you there's. There's something about that human experience. Like you say, the blue zone. The biggest thing that really they have in common is the community.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:You know, the diets are not necessarily the same and all of the different other elements that we try to connect aren't necessarily the same. But motion, they all walk around, they all, they all keep moving and they have a strong community. That's the thing they really do have in common.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and I know that in our world today that is for some people a huge challenge to have community even because not only are we segmenting ourselves physically and emotionally with those specializations, but we're also distancing ourselves from one another, you know, and never mind the whole six foot fiasco.
Speaker 1:Or social media and all of that.
Speaker 2:But we've got exactly, you know exactly, and in the one hand it can be really supportive in these sorts of instances, like we're doing this podcast and maybe giving somebody a, you know, light bulb idea of how they can help themselves. And then it's also the fact that it gets the screen, gets in the way of the interaction between people. So put your phone down and look at someone in the eyes and give them a smile and see what happens.
Speaker 1:Well, and that's, you know, the reason why I do this on a video conference so we can look at each other's eyes. But you know, I do a lot of episodes in person whenever I can because I think that it's a better experience. And you know, I do a lot of episodes in person whenever I can because I think that it's a better experience. And you know, one day, if you're ever down in Southern California, I'd love to do that and show you the gardens and everything.
Speaker 2:Oh, I would love that. That would be wonderful. Yes, once things settle down in your country.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we're a little chaotic right now. I don't blame you. I wouldn't want to travel here if I live somewhere else right now. Hell, I don't want to go anywhere. I'm afraid I can't come back. It's crazy, I mean, but you know that's also here nor there. When we create our own world, and you know all the chaos that's happening wherever you are, you have choices about how you deal with them and what you do with your experience. So you now have become. You know you got into geology, you got into this, you know the women's counseling, and so where did you go from there?
Speaker 2:Well, I've always been an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1:I can imagine.
Speaker 2:And yeah, and I've had a number of businesses. Where did I go from there? It's? It's such an interesting question. I, being a fellow Gemini, you know that our brains are constantly ping-ponging. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe three different places at a time, but it's okay, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2:But for me the bottom line is how can I be of service? Yeah, you know how can I help others?
Speaker 2:I had a gardening group for seniors for a long time through one of our municipalities and I ran a senior's garden group in one of the public gardens and we grew food, had community and we did. We did all of that. But eventually, through my mother's health issues and her death unfortunately, and then my youngest daughter, who was born with life-threatening allergies, anaphylaxis, wow I started to look around at how can I help differently than other people are helping. Like what can I do? That isn't mainstream medicine, isn't mainstream social work, isn't mainstream psychology. How can I bring in intuition, spirituality, faith in whatever that way that looks like to you, but also with practical skills around you know food as medicine and plants as medicine.
Speaker 2:And so I went down to California with Doreen Virtue some people might be familiar with. She's now stepped away from all of that work, but at the time she was very much involved in spiritual healing and oracle cards and so forth, and I went down and I did her program in California, actually came back here, did my practicum and put my shingle out as a psychic healer. That's where I started with. And as I started doing that work I realized that actually there's so much more. There's so much more.
Speaker 2:And there's always going to be so much more yes, yeah, that's right, and all of my interests in metaphysical, whatever metaphysical, the metaphysical world, you know, past lives and energy healing and the seth material and all of that that immediately started to seep into the work I was doing with people, okay, and after that it was just it's been a matter of one year at a time developing programs and courses right off the bat, group work off the bat, doing wellness shows, and eventually created this like mini empire of work and resources for people and certifying people to become healers themselves Nice and creating a healing modality called intuitive energy massage, writing the creating the Oracle cards in the box set of that. How can I help somebody on their healing journey? By giving them back their responsibility for their wellness, as well as empowering them to make good choices for themselves, wise choices for themselves, through all these different modalities that I've studied and learned and certified in and worked and created as well.
Speaker 1:I get it, I get, I get it, I, I um. Just recently we had a guest come on Um and I think she may have either studied under you or um she she does. I believe she said it was intuitive energy massage. And um, her name is V Martinez and, uh, she, she came on, came on, I don't know, a month ago or so, and she actually wants to bring her practice to our gardens, and you know yeah, oh my gosh, I don't know yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the whole idea of what we're doing is saying I don't need to learn everything, I can just offer this canvas that says whatever you do, try it here, it'll probably work better. Absolutely, I'll add another layer of of, uh, healing to what you're already bringing to it and, and a lot of times it brings out in people their better work. You know, we're working in a enclosed cubicle, whether it's 10 by 10 or 10 by 20 or 20 by 50. You're generally in a square surrounded by walls and a roof that keep the sunlight out and the fresh air out, and you got piped in air and you know emf from your wi-fi and all these things that are sort of getting in your way from being your best and connecting somebody. You go outside and all those things are stripped away way and you know the, the natural energies and um elements and gifts are there to be used and I think it just enhances everything.
Speaker 1:So it sounds like you've built quite a community. Is that? Is that kind of the case? Or? You know, with the technology today, you can help people literally anywhere in the world, and yet it's my experience that the personal, one-to-one community is generally some of the strongest. Yes, so do you have a local community that is connected as well?
Speaker 2:I do, I do and it was part of my mission when I hung that shingle out as healer is that I didn't want to do it by myself, nor did I think I should have to do it by myself. So when I started my classes, that was to create community, and so when anybody went through any of my workshops or courses or certifications, they became a part of the bigger community. And then whenever there was a show or there was an event, the call would go out to those practitioners to show up and be a part of that in order to support one another. I mean, it's one thing to say I'm going to help other people heal, but if I don't have someplace where I can go as a healer and I can have my supports in place, I'm going to burn out which happens to a lot of healers burn out.
Speaker 1:Most people that have the level of energy required to build something like this usually flame out after a while because you, just you end up carrying it and I mean I, I've luckily I've got this monster inside of me that never gave up. But but frankly, you know, I see how people do and most of most projects like this require, you know, a team successful. But we as Gemini's are, you know people, we could do everything. So we do, that's true, we don't. And then all of a sudden, you know you get sick or you get, you know, hurt or something happens that you know your subconscious says, hey, you need to sit down for a while, and but it looks like you, you figured that one out before it got you.
Speaker 2:Well, yes and no, I mean perfectly honest and transparent. I'm still human and I can sure as heck run a lot of marathons without stopping until I'm stopped. And in the last five years, with the way the world imploded, there was a lot of pain that showed up for a lot of people and we had some really significant losses over the last five years on many levels, as did everybody, and I found myself at a point where I realized no, I actually am burnt out.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting in front of a client and they're telling me their story and, quite frankly, I just want to say pull up your big girl panties and get on with it, because I don't have the bandwidth right now to empathize when I have all this stuff going on, and so I took myself out of the game for almost two years.
Speaker 2:I was still doing lots of things in the background, like my, my beyond the garden gate botanicals, um business, but also I took myself off all social media. I didn't participate in any shows, any wellness, anything. I just focused in on my family, my daughters and what they needed from me, my husband and myself and it was the best thing that I have ever done and I was literally walking my own talk. You know, when I counsel people to say, and I say to them you got to step out of your life for a while. It's one thing to say that, it's another thing to actually do it. Yeah, realize how powerful it is to be able to step out of the external life you've created for yourself and really hone in into like a hibernation mode of self-care.
Speaker 1:I totally get it. I'm I'm currently recovering from a very aggressive cancer that hit me and I'm certain it was because of my life choices. You know they said it was a virus that caused it, but I think you know 20 years of of of. You know choices that taxed me to the point of no return and my body's like, yeah, you need to stop. And again I removed myself from everything and disconnected from most of my relationships and got down to.
Speaker 1:You know you get this sense of priorities when you're faced with whatever it is that gets your attention and by the time it does like the old story the mule skinner, when you get whacked across the head with a two by four, a few times, all of a sudden you get your attention and for me it was the most difficult thing I've ever done but also the most blessings I've ever received from a situation. And now I'm restructuring and building in a way that isn't going to put me in that spot again, and I have so many more things I can offer people. I've learned a lot of things about things I thought I knew and you know now I help people in a way that I couldn't help before.
Speaker 2:Which is perfect, and that's what. That's how. My experience has been that if we step away from the path that we carved out for ourselves before we came into this lifetime, if we step too far off the path for whatever reason, there will be a rather strong nudge in some way or another.
Speaker 1:You see, if you want to fulfill your purpose, you got to get back on the road, exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I call it the wake-up call. You know, it's like bam, there goes the carpet out from underneath you and you've got to refocus your focus. Which is ironic because in the beginning of the interview I said you know, one of the biggest comments that teachers made was that I didn't have enough focus in my focus.
Speaker 1:I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 2:So there's the universe going Exactly. Focus back over here.
Speaker 1:You said you wanted this, so you got to do it. Yeah, that's right. Focus back over here. You said you wanted this, so you got to do it. Yeah, that's right. Well, as I'm watching our little hourglass tick away, I want to make sure we get to a couple of topics we also share in common. You're a formulator, you make natural remedies, and I've been doing that for 40 years myself, and so I just want to learn a little bit about what got you started and tell us a little bit about that business.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Well. The pivotal moment was out on a walk with my daughter and one of her really good friends and it's springtime and we're walking through a forest of fir trees and my daughter's friend pulls a little gooey bit of sap off of the fur tree, of the baby fur tree, and she smells it and she says, oh my god, this smells just like christmas yeah and I I so I pinched a little bit of that resin and I smelt it and I could feel my whole brain lighting up yeah oh, this is medicine yeah and I've got all this time right now because the world's imploded and no one needs me at the moment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what can I do with this medicine? I've got to do something with it, you know. And then it was the pine needles, or the fur needles as well, those early spring fur needles.
Speaker 2:You bite into that and your mouth is just filled with citrus yeah and I began a new quest to better understand how I could bring plant medicine specifically to people from the forest, from the natural environment and I'm very fortunate that I live right near the forest and I live near the beach, you know. So all of these resources are there. But then to take that and create a product from it that somebody can then apply topically to their skin, or a tincture that they can take and I'd worked with all of these things in the past, but I hadn't been the maker of them necessarily, certainly not at the degree to which I'm doing it now. So it was that moment of just recognition of this is medicine people need. How can I get it to them?
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:What can I do with it?
Speaker 1:And then your foraging. You know actually, when, when your publicist came to me originally that was sort of the the hook that that she sent and I was like, oh, that's interesting. You know, it's not something that I can do a lot of, although I built a botanical garden where I grow the herbs not all of the herbs I use, but a lot of the herbs I use Right, and I forge my own backyard. Now, yes, yeah, it's different than finding something wild. Occasionally, you know, I'll be out in a place where I'm able to wildcraft some useful plants, but not nearly as often as I would like. And Canada is such a beautiful place with so much wild areas that I'm sure, and plus just your environment with all the moisture and the things that a lot of herbs like.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm situated in a really beautiful space for growing things, wild or or otherwise, or bringing wild things into the into the garden. My wild St John's wort is now taken over most of my garden. Ask me over the years to take them out on walks and to show them what they could eat. That again I realized. Oh, I could get paid to do this. Yeah, why aren't I taking people out on foraging walks? So that's another arm of under the umbrella I love it is the urban and wild foraging tours.
Speaker 2:I think that's fantastic.
Speaker 1:You know you are truly living the dream. I get foraging tours. I think that's fantastic. You know you are truly living the dream. I get your dream and I think, again, we're on a similar path in that you know you're doing the thing you love to do and you're making enough to live on. And you know, for me that's like a musician that gets paid to play music or a singer that gets paid to sing. It's like you're doing that thing you have a gift for that you obviously love doing and you're able to let that be your life and your career.
Speaker 1:A couple of or one question. You know we both have experienced, you know, the metaphysical world. I think that comes from just realizing that there's so much more to this place than you can see. And again, we could probably share a lifetime of conversations with that. But one of the things that I've explored and I don't, I just want to hear if you have is the world of ethnobotanicals, and you know I've spent considerable amount of time working with medicine. Folks from you know Native Americans and South American healers and the medicines that they work with and I found that to be instrumental in me finding my answers that I needed. Have you gone down that road at all.
Speaker 2:I sure have, and I would say that all of my work with, with the plants is is of that nature. Nice, and as you're talking about, I mean the key point. The key difference between a pharmaceutical and a plant medicine is that a plant medicine is a whole entity.
Speaker 1:It has energy.
Speaker 2:It has energy energy, it has spirit, and so, yes, it's about the relationship that we establish with the plant, more than what piece of the plant can do what for us right right, it's about extracting one molecule.
Speaker 1:It's about spending time sitting with this plant and having a conversation.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly, and the conversation is so important, Like, for example, the St John's Wort that grows in my garden now. I was on a river. I saw this little plant growing a few years ago. I asked the plant, can I bring you home?
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I said sure, why not so?
Speaker 1:plants are generally pretty laid back about things.
Speaker 2:Sure, I'll try a new environment and I planted it in my garden. And the thing is now, every time I go out and I see that St John's wort and all of its friends. Now I go back to the river.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:It's that beautiful sunny day on that gorgeous river, the first time I met that wild St John's wort. That's a part of the relationship and that's a part of the healing I love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, that's fantastic and, as I suspected would happen, we're running low on time, but I could see many conversations coming out of this and I certainly invite you back. Why don't you give us your pitch and tell us how people can find you and engage with this amazing community you've built?
Speaker 2:Sure, I'd love to Thank you. The way they can find me it's pretty simple Megan Edge Healing. Put it into any search engine. You'll come up with Facebook. You'll come up with my YouTube. I have over 300 videos on my YouTube channel interviews, podcasts, workshops that I've given, all live talks that I've given and little bits of wisdom and that sort of thing. So that's a great place to go to get to know me and to see the way I do my work.
Speaker 2:And then you can go to my website at meganedgeca. There's loads of stuff on there, too, and ways that you can reach out to me and that we can work together if this feels like a fit. I also have my Etsy store, which is Megan Edge Botanicals, and you can find me on Learn it Live and the Wellness Universe as an instructor. So there's lots of classes that I'm putting up there that people can learn from me, and then I'm also doing in-person classes.
Speaker 2:I have a certification healer certification course called the Confident Healer, and it is an in-person course right now, but we're launching an online version of it in 2026. And that information will be on my website my web. Guy's on holidays, so it's going to take a week or two, but it will be there as well as the intuitive energy massage courses and classes. And then, of course, there's my Oracle Cards, which we didn't quite get to, but this is available through my website as well or on Amazon. You put in the Heart's Journey, healing Hearts, oracle Cards and Guidebook and it will pop up at the various places where you can purchase it, or directly through me, and I'll sign it for you.
Speaker 1:Fantastic. Well, megan, it's been an absolute pleasure having this conversation. I certainly hope you decide to come back and go deep into some of these conversations. Certainly hope you decide to come back and go deep into some of these conversations. And just, I have seldom shared as much of a life's parallel as I have with you, so I'm kind of happy about all that.
Speaker 2:I love it and I would be delighted to come back, and when things settle down, I'll be driving down the coast and coming to see you.
Speaker 1:I love it. Well, hopefully by then we'll have some bungalows that you'll be able to stay at. We're working on that. Love it, it'll be amazing.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Well, folks, this has been another episode of the Healthy Living Podcast. We appreciate all your support and we will see you next time.
