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Biohacking Your Way to Optimal Health with Troy Laing
Troy Laing takes us deep into the world of cutting-edge biohacking, revealing how combining multiple therapeutic technologies creates powerful healing synergies. His signature "Super Healing Protocol" stacks Brain Tap, PMF therapy, LED light stimulation, and hyperbaric oxygen treatments to optimize cellular function and trigger remarkable healing responses.
What makes this conversation particularly compelling is Troy's transparent journey from addiction and trauma to wellness pioneer. He shares how weight training served as his anchor during years of substance abuse before a transformative moment in the Himalayas led him to explore float therapy, cold water immersion, breathwork, and meditation. This personal evolution informs his holistic approach to client care, where he examines everything from time spent in nature to social connections alongside technological interventions.
The discussion takes a powerful turn when Troy shares the story of Chrissy, a patient with rare bone lymphoma who was given weeks to live after failed chemotherapy treatments. After three months on Troy's protocol, medical tests showed disappearing lung nodules, healed fractures, and significantly slowed cancer growth, giving her years beyond her prognosis.
Host Joe Grumbine provides a perfect counterpoint through his therapeutic horticulture work, highlighting how disconnecting from technology and reconnecting with nature creates immediate physiological relief. Together, they explore how the constant stimulation of modern life impacts our healing capacity and how intentional practices can help us tap into our innate healing potential.
Whether you're facing a serious health challenge, seeking to optimize performance, or simply curious about the latest in wellness technology, this episode offers thought-provoking insights into how combining ancient wisdom with cutting-edge science might just be the future of healing. Connect with Troy at cultureoc.com to learn more about his innovative protocols.
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Well, hello and welcome back to the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine, and today we have a very special guest. His name is Troy Lang, and this guy is a visionary biohacker and a leader in human performance. He's dedicated to empowering individuals to unlock their fullest potential. He's got a career in fitness spanning over two decades and, Troy, you know it's a treat to have you here. I love biohacking, I'm a biohacker myself, and anything that has to do with finding your peak performance, finding your potential I'm all about. So welcome to the show. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2:Yeah, very well, thanks, joe. Thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it. After reading a bit about your own journey and your story, I felt we had a lot of things in common in regards to biohacking and looking for alternative treatments, especially people going through diagnosis with cancer and wanting to avoid things like chemotherapy and some of the heavier things that are out there in the medical industry. And we actually currently do have a couple of patients that are either have been going through chemotherapy or going through these types of challenging health issues, and we have a lot of different technologies and how we combine them. We've seen great results with actually helping heal people and to slow the growth and reverse the effects of some of the diagnoses that they've had. So it's a pleasure to be here and sort of connect what we do in regards to your own journey and the path you've been on with your own story.
Speaker 1:I love that and, you know, some of the things you said are very relevant.
Speaker 1:There's not a simple answer to most people's problems and, whether it's cancer or diabetes or MS or obesity or addiction or on and on, whatever the problem is, sometimes there's a root cause in a single product or treatment solution, but generally not. And I think a lot of the answer comes from, you know, learning and trying and getting out there and putting things to the test and discovering what works for you, and that's really kind of what biohacking is all about. You know, as you said, I've been through this crazy journey that's taken me all over the place, from plant medicines to frequency medicines to, you know, oxygen therapies to heat therapy, everything, and in the end, I'm a new man. I'm going to find out Monday if I've gone all the way and solved this or not, but I'm well on my way and I suspect you've got a lot of good input as far as some of the things that you know. Frankly, I've explored a lot of things, but there's plenty of things I haven't. I'm always open to hearing about new technology, new discoveries, new developments.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think kind of what you're touching on, which is very important, is we buy hacking, we're hacking into our biology and we all, we're all uniquely different, so some people respond better to certain treatments than others and some people don't have a not, not a positive response, but maybe not as much as a influential response to some treatments and and and for some treatments, they just take a certain amount of time before the body is able to absorb that energy and convert that into a healing process. So, like you said, you've been on this journey where you've been exploring so many different treatments, and one of the things we do, like some of the treatments we have here, which you touched on, pmf, which is frequency treatments. We have LED light stimulation, so infrared and red light therapy. And another thing, you mentioned oxygen. So we have a hyperbaric oxygen chamber and what what I've found is, um, with my, my recovery center, we're we're using them in combined synergistic effects.
Speaker 2:So, um, have you ever heard of a brain tap? It's a audio, yep. So our super healing protocol incorporates basically four of the modalities that we stack together. We start our, our patients on the brain tap and the pmf at the same time. So, uh, for, for viewers unfamiliar with what brain tap is, brain tap is a headset uh device that uses light and audio frequency. With design uh meditations, audio meditations and the clinical studies and science behind is, we're shifting your brainwave activity into more of a delta or theta, which is your parasympathetic state, which is our recovery state. Now, why we do that as the precursor to other treatments on our super healing protocol is because our brain is what's sending and receiving signals for healing the body, and if you're in an overstressed psychological state, your, your brain, is less adept to maximizing the benefits of the next treatment or therapies you're going to go on to.
Speaker 2:On the pmf, we're increasing blood flow and circulation microcirculation uh, our mat has infrared technology in it as well, so we're reducing inflammation. And then that's setting us up to move on to our, our light stim led bed. So we have, uh, the led bed that has two different wavelengths of red light, two different wavelengths of infrared light, and you'll you'll see a common theme that majority of the applications and therapies we're using are doing similar things, using different ways of different wavelengths or different ways of energizing the cell to get a different response. So, once again, when we get onto the red light bread. We're increasing blood flow and circulation, reducing information, but then we're increasing the amount of ATP or cellular energy your cells can produce, as well as getting better communication between those cells, as we are made up of trillions of cells. How those cells communicate and how much energy they can produce from their mitochondria determines how we function on a cellular level.
Speaker 2:With that bed, it's been shown to release trapped nitric oxide from the cell, which allows more oxygen into the cell receptor. And from the bed we go into our hyperbaric oxygen chamber where we're then saturating the blood plasma and the body with 95% to 100% oxygen under pressure, where we're forcing that oxygen-rich blood plasma into the tissue and with regular use we're getting the creation of new vascular pathways, so new circulation to areas that are inflamed, reducing inflammation also increasing ACP and with regular use you're getting more increased stem cell production from the bone marrow. So when we use it as a combined protocol, we're seeing significant results from people with nodules on their lungs that are completely clearing up, increasing positive optimal levels of blood work for people going through cancer and chemotherapy and radiation treatments what I've found here. Unfortunately, we live in a country where it's very geared towards lining the pockets of the big pharma people. And so you mentioned something about root cause. Unfortunately, we live in a space where doctors aren't hyper-focused on looking at the root cause. They want to put a Band-Aid on a gaping wound.
Speaker 1:Yeah, completely symptomatic. We're going to cover up your symptom and then we're gonna put you on an endless loop of one thing needs another thing, needs another thing. You never take one drug. It's always a cocktail. Yeah, it's not the health care system.
Speaker 2:It's a sick care system. Yeah so uh. And then we start incorporating things like we are biohackers. So I've incorporated things like methylene blue, which is helping boost the effects of red light, helps offset the oxidative stress that is is happening in the in the chamber and then for for each client, it's really their, their, their bio feedback in regards to what's happening for them is the best markers that we have, because they're giving me the best, best feedback on playing around with different pressures, playing around with the amount of time they're exposed to certain energies and certain treatments on the bed, and we work with everything. So I mean cancer is one thing. I work with people coming in with chronic fatigue, different chronic health issues. I work a lot with TBI and concussion injuries. So we're just modifying our protocols to match that person's biological response to receiving all these different forms of energy.
Speaker 1:So how long have you been operating this center? So this month June.
Speaker 2:This year was two years since we first opened the doors to how we operate now. So two years this month it's been.
Speaker 1:And when you began, did you offer all of these services or did you just have some of them? How did that work out?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, we built out this facility and had everything operational and ready to offer when we first opened the doors. So we hit the ground running once we opened and had everything. So, outside of that what you know we're talking about more serious health issues. But we are a longevity and performance recovery center as well. So we work with high level athletes and just the general um community who are more interested in one having more control over their health, being more aware of it, and interested in different protocols, different therapies for better life longevity as well.
Speaker 1:I think that's an important point. You know, a lot of times people don't even take any notice of their health until something goes wrong. And other people, you know, spend their lifetime trying to be fit and healthy and I think that you know spend their lifetime trying to be fit and healthy. And I think that you know it comes down to choices. Like every day, you can decide to be a little better or not care. And if you decide to be a little better, well then you're going to do something, you're going to take some set of choices, and I think that it's important that you know.
Speaker 1:I operate a garden facility where we offer what we call therapeutic horticulture and I believe that in our gardens people can find any sort of healing if they put their mind to it. Somebody wants a good workout? I can give you a good workout. Somebody wants to meditate? We can meditate. But the point is just like what you're saying if you got a serious problem that you need to focus on whether it's a cancer, an injury, any sort of a disease or stress or trauma then you've got sort of a very focused attention and maybe a protocol. But maybe you just want to be better, maybe you just want to improve your stamina, maybe you want to improve your performance and strength, or whatever. I think these sorts of therapies and tools can help just about anybody, if you put your mind to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, one reason why I was excited to be on here is because of your ecotherapy. Whilst I have a brick and mortar business that's using technologies, our hyper focus is on education of a well-rounded lifestyle. So when we're doing an intake and profiling someone, we're looking at everything. How much time do you spend in nature, because it's a very important part of energy and how you feel? Do you read books? What type of material are you consuming? What is your social experience like? The time we spend with people can either be positively charging us or negatively draining, draining us. So, yeah, all these things are very important, which I love.
Speaker 2:The eco therapy, uh, what you guys are doing, because I think one thing I noticed is I live here in newport beach. I don't know why the business is. I live in costa mesa and it's a pretty beautiful spot, but it's 100 mile an hour. There's always noise around you and what I? What I found, uh, two recent trips over the last two years was one I went just out to the desert, middle of nowhere, just to get away for a weekend and a weekend up in Lake Arrowhead and instantly being in these places where there's not any noise around besides nature and the birds singing. Your body instantly just releases all this tension and like stress that you just carry in day-to-day life.
Speaker 1:Well, and the thing is, I would love you're only in Costa Mesa, you're an hour away.
Speaker 1:I'd love to have you come and visit the gardens and you can see for yourself that. It only takes 10 minutes. You can just sit down on a log and sit under a tree in a cool spot and just shut your mouth for a minute and listen to the birds fly by and hear the hawks overhead or the rustling through the trees, and almost instantly, you feel your body starts to release that tension and stress that you know you go in city and your, your body puts up a shield, yeah, as it's being bombarded with with vibrations, frequencies, energies, words, sounds, all of these things that you're literally, you know energetically, you're going like this to try to protect yourself from it. And then, when you get to a place that's quiet and, um, where you know that you feel safe and you don't feel like something's going to come out and and maybe assault you, you know, um, it's a whole different thing and and as you begin to relax and let go, um, there's a healing.
Speaker 2:That happens almost instantly, yeah, yeah, and and when, you're, I don't think, when you're in this environment and you don't get away from it, you don't really understand how that feels until you put yourself in in that space and you're like oh, this is this is how it feels like to just let go and and relax and my body can let go of all the tension absolutely absolutely and that's kind of the, the tools that you have, the hyperbaric some people.
Speaker 1:It's a little rough For me. It popped my ears pretty bad. It was a little difficult to get used to. But when you're in it and you get acclimated, it's a very peaceful, serene kind of a place. You're in your own little bubble so you can let go In the infrared space. It's the same thing. I've got an infrared sauna that I use. Sometimes I do a steam sauna and and. But being in that place you can, you're kind of in your own space so you're not again thinking about what's going on outside. It's generally quiet or there's a white sound that you can, you know, deal with, so you're not being bombarded. You can, even in that environment you can sort of let yourself, let yourself go to that place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're very intentional with everything that we do here. We use a lot of great quality technology and equipment, but our facility is more of a spa type, relaxing, earthy tones, not like you feel like you're walking into a medical facility. So a lot of our clients, even from the moment they walk into the front door, they instantly just feel this sense of relaxation. Things like the chamber in each room we're generally playing healing frequencies and tones that are really relaxing and just allowing people to disconnect and and not be so. I always well one thing. So one of the other therapies we have is a cold plunge. I'm a big cold plunge enthusiast, um, I've been doing it for quite a long time, but I teach breath work. So I teach breath work practices outside of cold plunging. I teach people how to have more emotional fight or flight control in any environment, but using a cold plunge where it's, where it's present in the moment when you're trying to.
Speaker 1:You're going to deal with that one minute or one way or another, for sure yeah, but that's why, for me, cold plunging really and breathwork changed my life.
Speaker 2:It was a huge defining point in my life. When I was in australia, I met a community that every morning would meet for cold water dips at the beach, no matter what time of the year it was, and they were very heavily involved in doing breathwork practices and having the deepest spiritual connection to breath and using it to control your emotional response and stress to your environments in general. So now I teach that practice and teach people how to cold plunge, utilizing breath work to control your response to the environment. And then, from a spiritual sort of deeper breath work point of view, we actually do events every month or two months where we do a big breathwork meditation, sound healing events. So they're there where, yeah, these are events where people have that transcendental type breathwork experience, that out-of-body type experience.
Speaker 2:But even in those ceremonies I've had, people have come in with injuries and after an hour of deep, uh, collective, transcendental breathwork, they, they, the injuries and and n hour of deep, collective, transcendental breath work, the injuries and niggles and pains they've had are completely gone and a lot of it is because you're just allowing your nervous system to let go and relax. Once you have an injury of some sort, your body's trying to compensate, to protect yourself. So you start getting real stiff and jacked up and when you go into that, that breath work, your body goes into that full release of allowing yourself to relax yeah, people don't realize.
Speaker 1:I think that an injury is kind of self-sustaining. You get into a cycle of of um, tension and um, where you get almost the inflammation comes and then you get spasms and it causes each other to keep getting worse. Yeah, you get tension, it'll, it'll trigger a spasm which causes inflammation, which continues the tension, and it just keeps cycling and you don't, unless you're able to relax and break that cycle. And you know, people do it with drugs and they do it with alcohol and they do it with certain things that have their own negative responses. It's really hard for your body to be able to get in there and provide what it takes to restore all that. And, like you said, you get your breath work, so you're raising the oxygen level in your blood, you're getting your cells to communicate at a peak level, it gets your immune system dialed into what it's designed to do and you know you can repair yourself like you would in a good deep sleep.
Speaker 2:Yeah're just sitting there in a in a sound bath, meditative state yeah, yeah, and it's um, it's interesting because, even like with you know, meditation and sound healing, like they say, if you like, the brain tap we have a lot of people have a great experience. It's, it's 20 minutes of time where you get taken into that deep delta or theta state, and they say that 20 minutes of deep meditation is the the equivalent of a good four hours of deep sleep. So, um, it's, it's a recharge 20 minutes out of your day, especially if you're carrying a lot of stress, and even not just mental stress but physical stress. When you go into that deep, uh, delta, theta state, your body goes into full, deep relaxation and people, people feel, feel the significant difference. A lot of the time I have to kindly wake people up out of their meditative state and they almost come back from not being present in the space, like where have I been, type thing.
Speaker 1:That's amazing. I've experienced that in a number of different ways and sometimes involving plant medicine, sometimes just in meditation and recently, you know, with my experience, I came close to death not that long ago and I learned about putting all of your energy to one thing and the power that can come from that. And it's very seldom that your life presents something where you have to give it all of your attention. You know, and it's meditation kind of you, kind of do that if you're able.
Speaker 1:I've always struggled with that, you know, and you know my brain just couldn't hardly get it to quiet down, but with this challenge that was so profound I had to, and so when that happened, I discovered that you can go to a place where you can operate, in my opinion, on a quantum level and you can move things around and you can direct energies and things like that. And I had never experienced it, had I not been able to do that. So when people are able to, you know, do a thing like breath work and and and the meditation with the sound bath, and if they're able to do it well enough, you can overcome just about anything. I, I, I came to a place of realization that literally there's nothing you can't fix in that space, if you can get to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and you're totally right. The hardest thing is getting to it and for some people it's very challenging. I did spend a lot of time doing a lot of Joe Dispenza's meditative practices and breath work. Meditative practices and breath work and you know, I mean he has a really great documentary that he released late last year around all cause. He's been collecting data for over 20 years just around meditation and breath in regards to the shifts and changes in the body for people healing and working with all kinds of trauma and challenging things. So, like what you're sharing, our brain is the most powerful thing on the planet. We just have to be able to tap in and understand how to use it to its maximum ability to get what we want out of it. And sometimes, day to day now we have like we're just overstimulated. Everyone's carrying one of these phones around. It's constant clickbait, it's you know. Being able to quieten your mind is one of the most challenging things, because everything is just so in your face right now.
Speaker 1:Well, that's why getting out in nature can be so amazing, like I just got back from a few days up in the Sierras. And you know, you go to a place where there's no signal and you don't care. Yeah, you turn on your phone because it's a camera. You catch some pictures, but other than that there's no, nobody to talk to and nobody to hear you. And you just get out there and in nature and experience it and feel the sun on your face and the wind and breathe the clean air and listen to the eagles flying by. And you know, you, I've learned that you can disconnect pretty quickly. When you don't have the option, it's like, oh cool, I don't need that. Cool, I don't need that, I don't want that, you know. But when it's there and ever present and nagging at you you know everybody's got some little dinger turned on it's like ding, ding, ding ding yeah yeah, hey, look at me, hey, look at me.
Speaker 1:And it's constantly stimulating, you know your little dopamine receptors going. Oh, there's something here for me, a little treat, little treat, little treat, yeah, yeah and uh. You know it's just like doing a line of cocaine. It's just, you know these little, these little or sugar or some little, you know some drug. It's just like each time these things happen, you get yourself geared to oh, something's happening, it's going to be. You know, I'm going to get a little pat on the head or whatever. And I think it's really caused a lot of harm to society In the last 15 years. You know, I grew up and there wasn't any of this. You know I there was no cell phones, there was no video games, there was no computers. And the life that I spent as a kid, you know, we went out and played, we rode bikes, we explored, we had friendships. You know somebody called you, picked up the phone and talked to them, you know, and it was a whole different world than we have today and, frankly, I think it was a better one.
Speaker 2:I agree. I mean I'm 42. So I grew up in the 80s on the cusp of like, before technology took off too much. So when I was a kid there was no mobile phones. We still rang the house phone. If no one answered, we rode our bike over there to see if they were home. You know what I mean. And we live by when the streetlights are on. That's when you come home type situation and I mess situation. And I messaged a good friend back in australia only a week ago and he lives on a beautiful property. He's got, uh like he's got seven kids. They have a like out in the middle of nowhere, straight running through it and they still live like simple, like uh, natural you know life, where they're still out doing stuff. They've got animals and things and, like I, I feel like yes, there's certain aspects of technology that's evolved us and has a positive effect, but so much of it has had a huge negative effect from a psychological point of view, for sure.
Speaker 1:I think there's valuable tools and computers and the access of information. We've developed our technology and our understanding of things exponentially from what it was when I started studying herbs. I was going to use bookstores and reading books, and now I can look up anything anywhere and identify anything and get a published study, and my learning curve is dramatically faster than it was. Yeah, but when you take these tools and turn them into a crutch or, more worse, a drug, then it turns sideways on you. Speaking of that, I I always like to understand. You know where somebody comes from, like my journey. I have a story. What brought me to this? And and uh, you know I had to do with my health issues and my experience with Western medicine. What got you to be interested in this biohacking and performance?
Speaker 2:So mine comes from more of a background of addiction and substance abuse and sort of working through challenges with childhood trauma, sort of working through challenges with childhood trauma. We all have a story and no doubt the majority of us have this challenging life story that you know constructs our subconscious as we grow into adults that we need to sort of unpack and unfold. So I grew up in a very domestic environment that was fueled by alcohol and domestic verbal violence. Environment that was fueled by alcohol and domestic verbal, uh verbal violence, um, and at a young age I started drinking. Uh 15 years old I started drinking pretty regularly. That led into marijuana, uh. That just led into harder recreational drugs such as uh speed, ecstasy, cocaine, methamphetamine.
Speaker 2:Um, I would say that I was a very high functioning person whilst using, so I never put myself in a situation where I wasn't taking care of myself from a financial point of view. I actually worked in the mining industry in Australia for a big portion of my life in my 20s, but my external recreational habits were leading to some pretty serious mental health issues and my I feel that part of my change was just evolution of me being a man, and I feel like men evolve through certain age ranges where things just shift and go. Okay, if I don't make any changes now, like I'm either gonna be killing myself not intentionally, but like with the life I'm living or I'm not gonna have the future that I want, like a wife of kids and things like that. Um, so I was around 31. I was actually in the Himalayan uh mountains, trekking through the Himalayas on a trek, and I had this sort of eye-opening epiphany of like this is it like if I don't change now, my life is going to not turn out where I want it to go. And I was, honestly, I had on on the outlook of like social media and what I was doing. It looked like I had a great life, but I was really depressed and lonely because I was single. I couldn't hold down a relationship. I was a wild sort of person in regards to my, my, my habits when I comes biohacking.
Speaker 2:From the age of 15, I walked into a gym and I was fascinated with weight training. So weight training became my a tool that I use through alcoholism, addiction and substance abuse. Throughout these periods of time when I was having struggles with mental health and substance abuse, I never lost touch of that physical feeling of being in a gym and using weight training to escape the outside world. But when I decided that I wanted to make these changes, I started diving deep into childhood psychology, early brain development. I wanted to understand, like, why I made the decisions I did, why I would choose substance and alcohol and things to help with my feelings or emotions, and then that led me down into biohacking.
Speaker 2:I got into detoxing through sauna and steam rooms. I actually found a float center, like the flotation therapy, and through that I was working with a lady that was helping me unpack some of my childhood stuff. And with float therapy I had these huge breakthroughs emotionally with what I was trying to let go of and what I was trying to unpack subconsciously. That was making me make decisions or constructing my subconscious the way it was. That was sabotaging, um, who, who I wanted to be that and and it's funny because when you're synergistically ready to open yourself up to see these different things, then different things get put into your, your, your wheelhouse of of other things that you can explore.
Speaker 2:So through the community that ran the float center, I found this community that met every morning and did cold water therapy, cold plunges, and that led me into breath work, that led me into meditation, and it just kept evolving.
Speaker 2:Then I just became, you know, over the last 10 years became extremely fascinated in biology. Um, how to, you know, manipulate or or or basically take control of your biological response through external influence, whether it be supplementation, peptides, light therapy? And it just kept evolving. And I was really good at what I'd done on my own personal journey and my big dream was to open up a gym with a wellness and recovery center in it. And then, two years ago, we just had this opportunity, with a suite that was the perfect size, to bring the wellness center and recovery center together in one space. And that's where it took off from and that's where I started to really specialize in putting all my knowledge and my own personal journey together with all these different treatments, to then help people that were managing everything from chronic health issues to cancer, to just longevity protocols or athletic performance stuff.
Speaker 1:I love it. It sounds like you were very fortunate. It seemed like you always kept at least one foot or a toe at least. In reality. A lot of people let themselves just go and they go down the hole, but it seems like you always had at least an anchor that was aware of your real existence.
Speaker 2:So that's yeah, yeah that that that was physical exercise.
Speaker 1:Without that, I don't know if I'd still be agreed, so we're getting low on time, but I always like to hear um in a situation like yours there's in two years you've probably ran into a lot of clients. There's probably at least one that stands out as a remarkable story of recovery or transformation. Why don't you share one of those stories with us?
Speaker 2:Yeah well, so we she's become a really we're very community based. Everyone that comes in here becomes part of the culture community and we're part of our family. So Chrissy uh has, and she quite happily lets me share her story. So names and things are totally, totally fine.
Speaker 2:Um, chrissy came to us. She has a rare form of lymphoma lymphoma bone cancer in her hip. Um, she had been through multiple stages of chemotherapy trying to slow the cancer's growth and her body was not responding to the treatments and she was given anywhere from a week to a month you might live six months sort of diagnosis. And she found us organically through friends of ours and came in and basically she'd been given a death sentence. So she was open to trying anything. Um, she came to us and stopped doing chemotherapy and I put I, I laid everything out for her of what I know our technology and therapies can do to regenerate her body and she spent three months with us without doing any chemo drugs or anything um, anything from the western medical world. And what was surprising was when she came to me, her oncologist at the time told her to not do hyperbaric oxygen treatments, which, if you understand the science behind what is happening with cancer cells and how powerful oxygen is and that's correct.
Speaker 2:That's what I mean. There's so so much distorted information, even with professionals that they don't really understand what they're talking about. And I laid it out for her. I said if you come and do these treatments three or four times a week, I'm promising you and I tell people. I'm not here to make promises, I can't make guarantees, but I believe in what we do, sp what we do. Spend three to four days a week with me doing my super healing protocol and give me that time and see how your body responds.
Speaker 2:She did that and then she got transferred to all the lead doctors at ucla. She went and did all her blood work. Everything came back and they were like we don't understand what's going on, like all the nodules on your lungs are completely disappeared, your lungs are back to 100, the fracture that was in your hip is fully healed, the cancer has slowed, it's no longer aggressive and growing and we've given her a whole nother year of life just since she's been with us a year now. So that story to me, is what it's all about. That's where the magic is.
Speaker 1:Agree, I totally agree, and I think that's fantastic. Well, this is about the time we've got, so I'd like to give you a chance to give your little elevator pitch and let people know how to get ahold of you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so like cultureoccom is our website. All that information you can book online, you can find us, you can reach out to us. Cultureoc underscore is our Instagram. We do a lot of educational stuff on there so you can find our information, connect with us there. Um, all our details are on the website. And then I do have a youtube channel where I try to do some little you know, podcasts and educational information, which is just culture oc. You'll find that on youtube as well, um, but I would also like to take you up on your offer and come out and see your ecotherapy and spend a bit of time in the peace and quiet with you out there.
Speaker 1:I would love that Absolutely. Well, it's been an absolute pleasure, and I suspect we'll probably have more to talk about one day soon, and I'd love to have you back on and go deeper into some of these things. So thank you so much for joining me today.
Speaker 2:All right. Thank you, joe, and I appreciate what you're doing in the community Like this is very important. Sharing your story, bringing people together, and I wish you all the best on your continued wellness and health journey.
Speaker 1:Thank, you so much. This has been another episode of the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Grumbine. I thank you for your
