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John Solleder: When Your Health Becomes Your Mission
What happens when childhood health challenges become the foundation for a lifelong commitment to wellness? John Solleder's remarkable journey from wearing leg braces as a child to undergoing spinal surgery at 17 set him on an unexpected path toward becoming a health advocate, entrepreneur, and glutathione expert.
The turning point in John's story came when his mother received a cancer diagnosis in 1996. While seeking complementary approaches to support her treatment, he discovered a glutathione precursor with impressive scientific credentials - research that began in 1975 and eventually attracted the attention of Nobel Prize winner Dr. Luc Montagnier and Max Planck fellow Dr. Wolf Droge. This product, now backed by 91 patents, became the foundation of John's health business and a cornerstone of his personal wellness regimen.
But John's health journey extends far beyond supplements. After reaching over 300 pounds, a chance viewing of the documentary "Forks Over Knives" inspired him to experiment with plant-based eating. The immediate improvement he felt after just one day without meat products led him to gradually transition to a primarily raw vegan diet. An accidental fall into his cold pool during winter introduced him to the benefits of cold therapy, which he hasn't missed a day of practicing in five years.
Throughout our conversation, John emphasizes that evidence-based approaches to health don't need to be complicated or expensive. From resistance training with discarded cinder blocks to "micro-exercising" throughout the day, he advocates for accessible practices anyone can implement. His philosophy echoes Jack LaLane's wisdom: "Diet is king, exercise queen. Put them together, you build a kingdom."
Whether you're struggling with health challenges, looking to optimize your wellness routine, or simply curious about evidence-based approaches to longevity, John's story offers practical wisdom and inspiration for your own health journey. The information is out there - now it's up to you to use it.
Visit johnsolleder.com to learn more about glutathione supplementation or explore John's podcast "Leaving Nothing to Chance" for ongoing insights into health optimization.
Intro for podcast
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Well, hello and welcome back to the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, joe Grumbine, and today we have a very special guest. His name is John Solider, and you know John is going to bring a perspective to this show that I think is really important. We talk a lot about ideas and we talk a lot about products and services that are designed to bring people and find their best life and health, but so many times and I'm a victim or I'm not a victim, but I'm definitely a demonstration of that where we generate these beautiful products, create these great ideas, personally experience transformative processes and have no way to get it to the public, and I've had many failed attempts at things for that reason. And so, john, welcome to the show. I'm very interested in hearing some of your ideas. You've got an interesting background and you know, from martial arts to Russian wrestling, bench press competitions I mean, you've got a wide range of experience. That brings you to this. Why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself?
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, joe, thanks for the invitation and welcome everybody. Nice to be here. But yeah, I mean I was always involved in athletics growing up. I was a kid, though, that had physical problems. I was born knock-kneed and pigeon-toed so I had to wear braces until I was eight years old on my legs at night and straighten it out somewhat, not completely and I found out by playing high school football I got clipped in the back that I had a spinal disease called spondylolisthesis, where I know we're not on video, joe, but you can see this where your hands, if you put your fingers together, yeah, hands if you put your fingers together, yeah, basically, my spine was, was my, the nerves of my spine on my right side were all wrapped up?
Speaker 2:Oh no, and it caused me to have spinal surgery at age 17. Very, very serious.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:I know that. Yeah, I mean I knew it was serious, but my parents knew it was more serious. I could have died from it. I could have had 80% paralysis. Didn't know that until afterwards. Sometimes what you don't know is good.
Speaker 1:Oh, tell me about it.
Speaker 2:But then I spent a couple of years because I couldn't play football anymore. I spent a couple of years goofing off. I got into drinking, never got into drugs. Fortunately I was lucky in that respect. Good for you.
Speaker 2:Never smoked, always hated it. So, yeah, I tried it like everybody did and said I don't want to do that. On my 20th birthday I looked at my dad, who had been an alcoholic earlier in his life. He had given it up, fortunately through the grace of God and AA, but he was dying at about age 55, 56, and had nothing but health problems. And at age 20, I said I'm going to stop drinking. And I really got focused on my health because a short time later I got introduced to my first business venture by a friend of mine who I had wrestled with in high school and happened to be with a health and nutrition line of marketing which I knew nothing about, by the way, I was still in college. I'll give you $32 and I'll join your business and see what happens. In the very first month I made about $800 before I graduated college, and that was in 83, joe you this oh yeah, I do.
Speaker 1:I was making three dollars and 35 cents an hour for minimum wage eight hundred dollars for a college kid was huge money those days everybody paid cash or a personal check.
Speaker 2:It wasn't like today with a credit card. So you made eight hundred dollars, you had eight $800 in your pocket and that got me aware of herbs. I had never really knew a whole lot about herbs before, but my very first business venture was with a company that sold an herbal wine. So that, you know, told me about things I had never heard about before, wasn't aware of, and started to take some herbal products. That business unfortunately had some problems with the FDA about a year and a half into me being with it. But I stayed on my health course. I got out of the business for a while. The direct selling business went into the life insurance business, but I always liked it. And then I got introduced to a water treatment product and I became the top salesperson for that.
Speaker 2:I actually moved to Canada from New Jersey during that period of time and developed a business with that company and then after that I wound up helping to develop another company that had an herbal line where we brought in a doctor who was a herbal pharmacognosist and for those of you not familiar with the term, that's the study of herbs, and you know this gentleman had both educations. He had the Western education in pharmacy at University of Michigan, but he had the pharmacognosy degree from National Taiwan University. So he kind of had the best of both worlds. And now he's back kind of in the herbal space marketing an herbal product.
Speaker 2:And just some strange things happened. I wound up down here in Dallas helping a sports nutrition company to grow and I worked with people from the Moscow Sports Institute on bringing creatine into the United States in a big way and Mum mumio, which was an herb, so uh, I was kind of involved with that and, in terms of product development, helped to develop, uh, some products, not from a scientific standpoint I'm not qualified to do that but from a strategy standpoint. You know, what did people need, for example?
Speaker 2:okay um and uh, probably the the first uh direct selling energy drink product that really was successful. I was actually the guy that named it, believe it or not.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:It's not a direct selling company anymore, but the product's still out there, used by a lot of professional athletes as well as weekend warriors. But what really happened was kind of strange. In 1996, I was pretty burnt out. I went over to Israel to visit a friend of mine and just kind of see the world a little bit. And while I was over there Israel to visit a friend of mine and just kind of see the world a little bit and while I was over there, my sister called and told me that my mother had developed cancer. I needed to come home to you know, see how it was going to turn out. It didn't, didn't, didn't sound promising, let's put it that way.
Speaker 1:It never does.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, and then use that C word. It's a bad word. Yeah, exactly, I didn't use that C word. It's a bad word. It should be a swear word, frankly. But anyway, I came back and my mother was a stage two breast cancer patient. At that point I was leaving the doctor's office after the last you know sets of tests and you know they turned into a human pin cushion. Oh yeah, I said to the doctor. I said, doc, is there something that she can take? You know, and I've been around herbs for years, I've been around vitamins for years, I've been an athlete for years I've taken god knows how much money I've spent on supplements, right, easy to do recovery and all that.
Speaker 2:And, uh, ironically, um, the doctor said, yeah, she said I have a friend who is a professor at McGill and a researcher, and she mentioned the guy's name. He had a crazy name, gustavo Bounos, which now I know his name. Yeah, right, you know. And that combine was tough, yeah, exactly, yeah, solid was not easy. I get, I get all kinds of crazy spellings of that.
Speaker 2:But uh, lo and behold, um, I started to buy this particular product, which was a glutathione precursor and, uh, that was in in late 96, early 97, and next thing I know, I find out that they're selling it, direct sales. Well, that's, you know what I've been doing for about 13 years, at that time very successfully. I, you know, had launched some companies and products and had all this experience and little, little tiny company in Montreal, canada, that was going to market this product and, frankly, they had no idea how they were going to market it, but they were business people and, more importantly, the product was the product of research. It had been researched since 1975,. It turns out that this Dr Gustavo Munoz, and this other doctor, dr Patricia Kongshaven, started to collaborate on something for the human immune system by 78, they published the very first peer-reviewed paper and some interesting things happened Can.
Speaker 1:I stop you for a second there. I don't mean to derail, but this is important because in the world of supplements and herbs it's a double-edged sword and I am in that world and I believe very strongly in it. I have a lot of personal experience. But the problem is there's a lot of unscrupulous people that take advantage of the lack of regulations and the standardization and the actual research. So many times somebody will create a study that's limited in scope and looking for you know confirmation, bias and they'll publish you know anything and say, hey look, this doctor said this, this doctor said that. But to actually get a peer reviewed paper of any type and to remain in a larger scope of research, that is very important and I just wanted the listeners to hear that part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, you're absolutely right, because you know, if I deviate for a minute from the story on that particular product, but always ask people who paid for the research, right, that's going to tell you what the outcome is going to be. And unfortunately, you know scientists, you know they got bills to pay too, so unfortunately they're influenced by it. And if it's paid by Coke, pepsi, kraft or anybody else, you probably shouldn't take it.
Speaker 1:That's great advice.
Speaker 2:You know so, and that list is probably longer than those companies, frankly, but you know, or, by the way, by industry lobbying groups. That's a whole other group of people. But anyway, I got involved and I had no idea what glutathione was. I had no idea it's in every cell in our body. But I started to get educated on it and I started to get to know the two key researchers.
Speaker 2:What happened between 1978 and 1996 was that that product got picked up by other researchers, two of which were really influential people. One was Dr Luc Montagnier Joe, you might remember his name, or your listeners might. During the whole COVID thing, he was one of the docs that came out. He ran the Pasteur Institute in Paris. He came out and said do not take it, it's going to morph. Well, you know, for better or worse, it's right. I didn't take it, not only because of his advice I wasn't going to take it anyway but Not only his advice, I wasn't going to take it anyway. But you know, right there with you and anyhow.
Speaker 2:So Montagnier was doing research on the HIV virus and he started to use our product with some very good results, with a family where the father had impregnated the mother and given her the HIV virus and of course the baby that they conceived was born with it and used this particular product in research with them. That research study became part of a book, a medical textbook still used in academia, and that particular book is on oxidative stress and treating cancer and HIV. And Montagnier was you know, huge, huge name won the Nobel Prize for the discovery of HIV, along with Dr Gallo from the US, and then another doctor up at the German National Cancer Institute in Heidelberg, germany, fellow, by the name of Dr Wolf Droga. He liked our product but he said if you added some other things to it anti-inflammatories it would have some better results for older people, people over the age of 40. At the time I qualified as an older person at the young scale. I'm like I don't know what happened. All these years went by.
Speaker 1:Oh man, Happened so quickly.
Speaker 2:But Drogue was a guy, joe. That was really interesting in the respect that he was a Max Planck fellow, and if you're not familiar with Max Planck folks, max Planck was Albert Einstein's mentor.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Over in Germany. The Max Planck Institute is considered to be one of the two leading institutes in the world of scientific achievement. Most of the physicists in the world have had some association with it.
Speaker 1:If you don't know his name, you're probably not involved in science at all.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and if you're not familiar with it, just Google it and you'll see some of the other Max Planck fellows. But this guy, drogue, was a Max Planck fellow. He was peer-reviewed, published over 300 times, so he used our product and he actually wound up taking some of what he added to it in his research and developing a product for us nice with our original product with these extra components in it.
Speaker 2:So it's a it's a very interesting uh story, but we always went with the peer review. We never went with. You know, just hey, we say this or we say that, which was very, very unique because we are a direct selling company, by the way.
Speaker 2:In 1996, the guys that were putting up the money for the research said, well, ok, at the end of the day you can only put up money for so long. At some point you've got to sell something. Researchers need to eat, investors need to eat. And that's kind of. Where I got involved was, uh, late 96, early 97. Like I said, my mom started using the product with very good results. By the way, she started at 69. She passed away at 92, so uh product certainly helped her through the years. I started to take the product myself I was 35 I'll be 64 next month uh, with great results by my sister who's a doctor in new york. She's uh continues to take the product, etc, etc. And then we built a big business with it. But uh, realistically, you know, yeah, I look, research leaves clues. Um, and the fact that we were peer reviewed has resulted now in 91, 91 patents on this product.
Speaker 1:Wow, impressive what we found with glutathione too. That's really interesting. Is you know when? 91 patents on this product? Wow, Impressive.
Speaker 2:What we found with glutathione, too, that's really interesting is, you know, when we started it was purely immune, immune, immune. You know the serious stuff of immunity, cancer and HIV, right, the two, you know, two things that are still, you know, very much big problems, as you well know. But what we started to find with things like TBIs, that there was a benefit from increasing glutathione Now you wouldn't think that, right, like, how does a brain injury have anything to do with it? Well, we started to do research with the folks at the Eleanor Roosevelt Center out at the University of Denver, with a doctor out there, and started to find some interesting things with that. And then, of course, athletic performance, in terms of recovery, for example, we started some interesting things with that. And then, of course, athletic performance, in terms of recovery, for example, we started to find things with that. So you know, getting a glutathione level up is hugely beneficial and you know that's what I do for a living.
Speaker 2:You can contact me at johnsolidercom S-O-L-L-E-D-E-Rcom If you have interest in the product. I, if you have interest in the product, I can certainly tell you more about it and get you on it if you so desire. So you'll have information In addition to that, you know my health journey because I you know I had this problem early on with my health. As I said, with the surgery early on, I got very devoted to my health and it's interesting, joe, and you can relate to this in your own journey, and I'm sure your listeners can, because we're all we're on a journey. I mean, you know it's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you're not, you're, you're. I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 2:Exactly. And so I mean what do I do today? Ok, as a as a 64 year old guy. Well, during covid, I actually fell in my pool one day, Not proud of that, by the way, I was walking one of my dogs. I fell in the pool. I live in Dallas, so it's not like you know.
Speaker 2:I mean you know hopefully it was in the summertime yeah, but it was cold and the water had actually frozen in the pool and defrosted. I was chasing the dog and I slipped and I fell in thinking, oh my God, I'm going to get sick. I got out and I felt. Wow, I felt terrific and it's funny how things happen. Right, I believe in God, so I believe it's divine. Okay, but you know, if you believe in Mother Nature or you believe in the universe or whatever you believe in, I think that old adage right when the student is ready, the teacher shows up 100%, 100% that old adage right, when the student is ready, the teacher shows up A hundred percent.
Speaker 2:I'm watching TV, and I don't even watch TV that often. I'm watching TV. I'm watching Brian Gumbel, whose show isn't even on anymore, and he's talking about our next guest is this crazy guy who climbs mountains in his shorts in the middle of the winter. And I'm like, oh, and I find out. There's this whole group of people out there around the world following whim, and I think I'm a whim guy. I'm a big fan of whim some people, some people aren't, but uh, I think whim's a great guy and I learned a lot from him but locks his walk that's for sure oh yeah, oh yeah I I became a a cold dipper every single day haven't missed a
Speaker 2:day now in about. Let's see, that was 2020. So, whatever it is, five years, wherever I go I was just in Costa Rica took super cold showers every single day, but at home, I use my pool during the colder months and I've got an indoor believe it or not like a hunter's refrigerator that I use, used during the warmer months, which is now getting warm down here. So I just I just literally just turned that on this morning to get it, get it, uh, frozen and I defrost it and I go in there, uh, uh. From a diet standpoint, um, because I had been an athlete, but I also had had, uh, multiple injuries to my hips, my shoulders, et cetera. I wound up gaining a bunch of weight over the years and eight years ago I was over 300 pounds. I am 6'3", by the way, so I'm not a little guy Still 300 pounds for a non-performing athlete is probably a little extreme for most people.
Speaker 2:It is, it is, and I was getting up there in years and I was sitting in a restaurant here having a four cheese burger, french fries and a milkshake and I'm thinking, you know, this probably isn't good for my heart and you know it's not good for your heart, but it tasted good yeah and I said you know what, tomorrow it was a friday night.
Speaker 2:Tomorrow I'm going to just take one day and go veg, just for one day. I'm not going to eat any meat products on saturday. And I did that on a saturday. It was eight years ago. I did that on a saturday. I woke up on sunday and I felt a little better. Just my, my inflammation felt better that quickly one day and I said, okay, well, this saturday, what?
Speaker 2:this sunday too, no big deal. I'm home now, I'm not running the streets doing anything. You know, I got up, went to church, came back to the house and I'm like, you know I'll eat. You know, just eat other stuff today. And I did. And then you know once again that whole thing. You know about the, you know the teacher and the student, and I'm walking on the treadmill and, just like I found out about Wim, I'm watching a talk show and I forget the girl's name. She used to be on Fox and she had a big argument with Donald Trump and they fired her. Megan, megan Kelly.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:She had a talk show, and I don't even know if it's still on anymore, but they had it on at the gym. So I'm watching this thing and these three obese guys are shown and all of a sudden they walk through, one of those those things that you know. Like, like you walk through, like at a high school football game, where, like they break through, the team comes right, right, here comes these three obese guys. We're no longer obese.
Speaker 2:They both all all three to look terrific nice and they talked about the fact they had started a running club in louisiana where they live and and I think two of them are cousins, one was was related in another way, but anyway, these three guys had obviously transformed themselves with diet and exercise. And they're talking and, um, I can't hear it, but it's got the you know the teleprompter thing going, you know, so you can read it. And the one guy starts talking about a documentary called Forks Over over knives. Huh, never heard of that. Came home, said to the wife, I said, hey, on netflix, can we get this? I said it opposite we have the knives over forks. And she's like that doesn't sound right. Let me google it. And she did. And you know, forks over knives. And we watched it that night, joe. And and I heard Dr Esselstyn talk about the study that was done in Norway during the Second World War where the Norwegians were basically forced to give their livestock to the Germans.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:The Germans said well, you can feed your family with the root vegetables, but we get the chickens and the pigs and the cows. You continue to farm that and you can eat what you can grow, which they did. Well, what's interesting is that there's a corollary that Dr Esselstyn talks about where the cancer rates and heart disease rates in Norway were about the same as the US at that point, during that span of World War II. They dropped dramatically in Norway. Okay, because they're eating what are they eating? They're eating radishes, carrots, you know beets, you know they're eating root vegetables.
Speaker 2:1945, of course, you know we show up, take the Germans back to Germany and they go back to eating that stuff. Well, within a year the rates are back up to the same as the United States and you know that one study alone told me I was on the right path and I became a big fan of Caldwell Esselstyn. Of course, and still am. It's still an amazing guy, 91 years old, still giving lectures all over the world. But you know, once again, it was like the information was there and I guess one of the points if you're listening to this and you're saying, okay, where's this guy going? The information's out there, folks, for you to improve your health bottom line. Okay, the stuff we're talking about and the stuff that joe's other people because I'm a fan of your show, joe the stuff that all the other guys have talked about on your show, including our mutual friend dr rothschild with red light therapy.
Speaker 1:You know this is yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:He did a great interview just recently yeah, yeah, matter of fact here, here's your people can't see this, but there's his book. I've done a whole book book tour with him, uh, on his book, uh, but uh, um, you know, this stuff's not crazy. This stuff's got lots and lots and lots of research and evidence-based science to to to support what we're talking about. Um, the other thing, the other couple of things that I do, by the way, I became raw vegan a year ago, january. That was kind of the next step in my transition and I can't say I'm 100%, I'm about 95%. Occasionally I have some cooked vegetables, but that was another game changer, was really dramatically eating lots and lots and lots of primarily fruit, really dramatically eating lots and lots and lots of primarily fruit, some vegetables, every single day. I just got back from Costa Rica. I spent eight days basically doing an all-fruit cleanse with some other people down in Costa Rica. Fabulous experience. Water fasting is something else that I've become an advocate of.
Speaker 1:Once again.
Speaker 2:I study the guys up north Dr Goldhammer, and I also get the other doctor's name up there but I did a 10-day water fast during Thanksgiving 2020. And I said let me skip the biggest eating holiday of the year. So I'm down in Austin, texas, at this retired chiropractor's house and, by the way, I do suggest medical supervision, certainly if you're going to do a water fast.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And anyway. So I'm down there and I skipped Thanksgiving. Boy oh boy. It just set off some great things for me health wise Last year, last June, coming up here very soon I need a 21 day, you know, once again supervised. I did. I did do that at home, but I was medically supervised. I was paying, paying somebody to medically supervise me. Uh and uh, great results, not only, not only with weight, but more than that, how I felt afterwards and just just kind of a constant reset with the autophagy and everything else. So these are all things that you may or may not be interested in doing, folks, but they're working for me.
Speaker 2:The other thing I'm a huge advocate of is exercise. Before this call, I was at the gym 6 am this morning. I'm an early riser and it's like the sooner I get to the gym the better to get it out of the way. I'm an early riser, it's like the sooner I get to the gym, the better Get it out of the way. But as we age, resistance training has been shown to be that much more important, even than when you were an athlete. When I was a competitive athlete, and I still am to some degree I don't play judo anymore because of my age and my health I still do a little bit of powerlifting and occasionally I get crazy and I go to a track meet and throw the shot put.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:Not all that well, but it's a great community of guys, so I kind of do it.
Speaker 1:It's not ever about how well you do, it's that you do, and progression can be as minuscule as you can think, from I did it one more time to I did one more rep to I did one more pound or one more foot or one more anything. I can't implore people to consider that in their journey because people say, oh, I've plateaued, I'm not getting anywhere, it's not working, and you got to look at what are you measuring against and what, what? What's the lens you're looking through? And I think it's really important to keep people moving forward, regardless of what they're doing yeah, it's participation.
Speaker 2:At this stage of my life it's like I don't. I don't need another medal if I get one when I go to something great. But that's not my motivation. My motivation is I enjoy the people and it gives me a reason to train. It gives me a reason to be consistent in my training. But you know, just mentioning the resistance training, I find it's more important now and once again there's a lot of evidence-based science to support this that you, you lift weights of some degree and that doesn't mean you're in there benching 500 and squatting 800.
Speaker 2:It means that you're doing something right people tell people all the time, too, that they think well, I've got to belong to a fancy gym, and maybe I live in a rural area and there's not one within 20 miles and it's just not convenient. Build your own gym, either in your garage or, if you can't do that for whatever reason, there's nothing wrong with assembling really discarded things, and I'll give you an example. I've picked up at construction sites, like cinder blocks, that construction companies don't need anymore. They use them for whatever and they don't need it.
Speaker 2:I throw them in the back of my old Chevy Silverado and I built a gym in the corner of where I park my car in the back of my house my, my good car and I got a little gym back there. Sometimes I'll just go out there at night for 10 or 15 minutes. Do some curls, do some farmer's walks, move my body right, so you don't have to have it.
Speaker 1:You know you don't have to have the, the multi-million dollar exercise equipment do you can always drop down and do some some push-ups, burpees, sit-ups, I mean any resistance training is going to be helpful you know, pick up some rocks yeah once again I've gone through construction jobs.
Speaker 2:Uh, you know where they're discard guarding you know rocks and things different sizes, and I, I've got a, I've got an old truck. Basically I throw them in the back of and and, uh, you know, then I put them in the corner of where we park our cars. But you know, once again, do that. I've got a friend, scott Erickson. He's the best 60-plus-year-old shot putter in the world and Scott has an expression that he uses called micro-exercising, and he's an engineer, so he sits a lot, lot. He's on the computer all day working and he'll just say, hey, five to ten minute micro workouts during the day, you might get three or four of them.
Speaker 2:Do something right, get some resistance bands, you'll get it right you'll get, get something you can pull on, push on just to move your body and get that synovial fluid uh going. So that and that applies to younger people too, but I'm talking more to guys in my age group and women in my age group it's just so important to continue to move the body, stretch it and challenge it. Your body's meant to be challenged, so if you don't challenge it, it goes to sleep on you.
Speaker 1:I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2:Those are some of the things that I'm doing. I'm using methylene blue. I finally broke down and bought some last month, but I can't tell you good, bad or indifferent.
Speaker 1:I've played a little bit with that. It makes your pee green.
Speaker 2:It is a little strange. It's a strange substance, strange history to it, so I can't tell everybody go take it because I can't tell you any results with it.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But you know, the main thing is diet. I go, I go back to what jack lane said many years ago, right, that, uh, you know diet is king, exercise queen. You put them together, you build a kingdom and you know those two things I think are vitally important for our longevity and our health. And look, we're not going to live forever. I'm not naive. I know. You know we get out of here in a box or an urn.
Speaker 2:That's this reality, but it's how we get there exactly how do we save that off as long as we can and do it where we have quality of life, where we can enjoy our life our loved ones are? I'm a dog guy. I got four dogs that I. I love their company. It's like I. I want to be here for them for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 2:They're all young dogs, so a couple of them are small dogs. Where they're going to live, you know 15, 20 years. So you know there's a lot of good reasons to take good care of yourself and do the best you can, and there's no guarantees. But if you do some of these things, some of these practices, you're going to probably find that the outcome is going to be very favorable.
Speaker 1:I agree. Well, john, we're getting a little tight on time. I want to make sure that you've got time to you know, really give if you've got a 20 second elevator pitch that you wanted to share with anybody, and, of course, how people can get a hold of you and find out the rest of your information.
Speaker 2:Sure, it's real simple and find out the rest of your information. Sure, it's real simple. Probably the best bet is just go to johnsolidercom John and my last name S-O-L-L-E-D-E-Rcom, and you also can listen to our podcast, okay, which is called leavingnothingtochancecom. We've got our own podcast now that we've been doing for about five years. Excellent, some is on health, some is on health, some is on business, some is on other subjects from time to time. But you might want to check that out. And if you're interested in our product, our Glutathione product, I can certainly send you the 91 studies. You don't have to read them all.
Speaker 1:I would love to see that.
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Speaker 1:Fantastic. Well, I agree with much of what you say and live by a lot of those premises, and you hear these things recurring in the show. And, john, thank you so much for joining us and I look forward to maybe continuing this conversation in the future.
Speaker 2:I'd love to have you as a guest on our show too.
Speaker 1:So we'll send you a call Glad to anytime. Well, thank you very much to all the listeners that have supported the show. This has been the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, joe Grumbine, and we will see you next time.
