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Mitochondrial Miracles: How Near Infrared Changes Lives
The secret to better health might be as simple as light. Dr. Carl Rothschild joins us to reveal how red light therapy is transforming lives through remarkable cellular healing.
What began as skepticism turned into a mission when Dr. Rothschild, a chiropractor with 47 years of experience, witnessed the profound effects of combining red and near-infrared light. His journey from doubtful practitioner to passionate advocate reveals a therapy that works at our most fundamental cellular level.
At the heart of this treatment is the mitochondria—our cellular power plants making up 10% of our body weight. When stimulated by specific light wavelengths, the mitochondria's cytochrome C oxidase enzyme springs to life, restoring energy production throughout the body. This process has proven transformative for patients suffering from conditions previously considered untreatable. From a man experiencing weekly heart attacks for 12 years who found complete relief after one session, to someone with debilitating Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease who regained mobility after decades of suffering—the results border on miraculous.
Unlike treatments that destroy tissue or introduce foreign substances, red light therapy works with the body's natural processes. For weight loss, it temporarily makes fat cells more porous rather than destroying them. For healing, it penetrates deep into tissues without generating harmful heat. The most effective application bathes the entire body simultaneously, addressing everything from autoimmune conditions and neurological disorders to skin problems and athletic recovery.
Curious about trying red light therapy? Dr. Rothschild recommends a simple six-session protocol to experience benefits firsthand. Visit trifectalight.com to find a practitioner near you, or explore the 3.5+ million research papers on Google Scholar documenting this therapy's effectiveness. Your cells might just be waiting for the right light to shine.
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Well, hello and welcome back to the Healthy Living Podcast. I'm your host, joe Grumbine, and today we have a very special guest joining us, dr Carl Rothschild. And Dr Rothschild is a pioneering advocate of red light therapy and we've talked about that on the show already a little bit, already a little bit, and we're going to talk about his story and he's got some products that he offers and we're going to just jump right on into it. So, dr Rothschild, why don't you tell us a little bit about first, what is red light therapy? A lot of people don't have any idea.
Speaker 2:So, first of all, thank you for having me here. Um, as far as what is red light therapy? When I when I use the term red light therapy, I'm talking about the combination of red light and near infrared. So near infrared is invisible to the naked eye. But the results? We were the first company, really 12, 13, maybe even 14 years ago, to integrate red and near infrared.
Speaker 2:So, if I can go back to the origin, well, first of all about myself. I've been a chiropractor since 1978. So 47 years give or take. I was introduced to light therapy about 26 years ago when a relatively famous orthopedic surgeon out of and professor out of USC here in California suggested that I shine a light on somebody and it's going to make a difference, and I, of course, rolled my eyes. By that time I knew everything, thought he was crazy, but he convinced me to at least try it and it revolutionized my practice.
Speaker 2:And that was with a device that was thousands of times weaker than what we currently have. And I can tell you, back then the only thing we knew for sure is that you couldn't hurt somebody with it. In fact, in the 50 years of this technology being studied, there's never been a reported side effect. So, again, you couldn't hurt somebody if you tried. And you know, this medical doctor assumed that his fellow orthopedist would jump on board with him using this technology as it would get improved, and all that. But none of them did. And the reason is because, if you have the option in this country because we're so money oriented in the world of health and well-being if you have the option of making $20,000 doing a surgery or not, which way are you going to go? You know, when you give people that option, when you give people that choice, you know, and so, anyway, I don't want to get into that.
Speaker 1:That's actually a very important point that you brought up and you know this podcast is themed on healthy living. We go all over the place with that, but when money comes into it and therapies and things that are offered or suggested by practitioners, I caution people that generally, if they have something that they offer that's going to make them a lot over something that's going to make them a little, you can almost guess which way they're going to lean, and it's not always, but definitely it's a contributing factor here. So I appreciate you bringing that point up.
Speaker 2:So again, and dating back to 1973 or seven yeah, I guess it was 72 or 73 when I was in college and I was motivated by my at that time. My girlfriend's mother was saved by a chiropractor. I didn't know anything about chiropractic and I then did a lot of research on it and we were kind of hippies of sort. My version of hippie was at that time was that money was not going to be my motivating factor. I don't mind making money, but my motivating factor was helping. I know it sounds corny, but I wanted to help people.
Speaker 1:I'm that kind of hippie myself right now, so I agree with you to help people.
Speaker 2:I'm that kind of hippie myself right now. So I agree with you. So you know. So I got involved with being a chiropractor. Then 20 something years ago, we got involved with light therapy and we're having great results and we started off with a class one device, class two, it went all the way up to class four device and then about 13, 14 years ago it was discovered that there was an element of red light that actually helped with weight loss, and you and I both know that in this country in particular, weight loss is huge. I mean, you know our marketing. We have marketing companies that work with us for our people. So we have a lot of practitioners all over the country. They want to be able to market their facility and when we market anything other than weight loss we'll get a good response. But when you put weight loss in the mix it could be 10 times the kind of return on investment of marketing that you would get. So when I heard that weight loss was going to be part of the mix, that's when I started manufacturing.
Speaker 2:That was about 13 years ago, I would say, and again I do want to mention again that red light near infrared. So when I started all the devices that I was involved with was near infrared only, that's invisible to the naked eye. It's a certain wavelength range that is unbelievable. It's my miracle wavelength. I love it. But there was another company that was only doing red light and they're the ones that discovered and they they wouldn't have nearly as success. We haven't, and I didn't want to tell them that. But they loved red light and I said, okay, great, but they're the ones that discovered it was red light, not near infrared red light that helped shrink fat cells and it does it healthy.
Speaker 2:It doesn't harm anybody. You know, as I told you, as a chiropractor I don't believe in putting anything in the body that doesn't belong there and I don't believe in yanking anything out that does belong there, I mean unless there's absolutely no other resort. But as a chiropractor, we look at's try natural first. It doesn't always work, but let's try it first. That's all I'm saying. And now that we've have red light therapy in the mix, I am going to startle some of you with the kind of results that we're hearing. But it takes a certain kind of medical grade device that you you're going to want here. So, getting back to weight loss we started making I was involved with lasers. We started also making pads and having very nice results, not just with with weight loss, but also with um local healing of a shoulder or an elbow or whatever and but, ever and but.
Speaker 2:Then the next interesting experience was COVID. Now our practitioners and we had hundreds of them back then and still do wanted a way of treating a patient without physical contact. They wanted a way, and with the bed you don't need staff even so, the person gets in the bed and out of the bed themselves, they go to the front desk, they wave goodbye because they've already paid in advance and they've already scheduled in advance and it's a very simple process. So we started delivering our first series of beds several years ago, again in the beginning of COVID, with no high expectations other than it would be at least somewhat of a good substitute of what we had up to that point again strictly because our practitioners didn't want that physical contact or had that opportunity to not have physical contact. So little did we know that within the first month of delivering the first series of beds we were getting startling results, and I don't know what else to say. And what we've learned since is that when you bathe the whole body at the same time, that's head to toe, front and back, left and right, inside and out, as many cells as possible and near infrared. We integrated both together that we were getting these results.
Speaker 2:So this guy calls us up, and they actually did a testimonial video on that. In fact, I'm going to send you the show notes and that will include videos that you can send out to your audience. Excellent, that are startling as heck. So this guy had Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease, which is a rare, weird autoimmune disease with a weird name, and what it meant for that guy is that it would be 15 years of pain every day and 15 years of basically not being able to walk, and he had nothing to lose. So he got in the bed and then they did the testimonial video with him, and what he was essentially saying was at the end was thank you for giving me my life back, because now he's walking, he has no more pain, and that was after six visits.
Speaker 2:Wow. So was that surprising? Absolutely so. Then we get a guy, and I often start my lectures with this following notion I want you all to think of yourself as a health practitioner. Just think what would you do as a health practitioner. If someone called you up and said I'm having a heart attack once a week, if not twice a week, and this has been going on for over 12 years Wow, what's your answer to that? Nobody else had an answer for him. They had implanted if you want to call this an answer, they had implanted a defibrillator into his chest 12, 13 years ago, and every time he would die it would zap him back to life. Right, right, but by the time we met him, he was dying.
Speaker 1:He was and you can only do that so many times.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know if that's true, because he'd already had hundreds of them. Oh really. Hundreds of heart attacks, hundreds of heart attacks.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:By the time we met him. But every organ, every gland, his energy was gone. They were all suffering. His body was suffering.
Speaker 1:He's damaged every time. That happens as well. So there's got to be some kind of a, some kind of a diminished return on that.
Speaker 2:What I what I didn't understand is later on, when I was thinking about, is like why didn't they just do a heart transplant? Because this it was a mess? Well, anyhow, I'm glad they didn't because the practitioner his practitioner calls me up and says look, I got this guy coming in tomorrow. He, he's having heart attacks regularly. I don't even think I should treat him because I don't want him having a heart attack. In my office I said, listen, let's just treat him for five minutes. You know that the worst that will happen is nothing. We know that. Let's try it Five minutes.
Speaker 2:That patient went home that night that was almost two years ago has not had a heart attack since. He's had more treatment and everything has come back to life the way he describes it. Is that what I? He says. But I wasn't expecting that my energy is now through the roof and that everything has come back. His blood pressure is normal, His pulse is normal, His energy is normal. And, by the way, do you know how depressed he would be when he knew he was dying? And now how thrilled he is that he's not dying? I can only imagine and this only happens when you get in a high-end, medical grade bed that will cover your entire body.
Speaker 2:So what I want to now review with everybody is well, how does this darn thing work, right? So it really comes down to there are two completely separate mechanisms. One mechanism on this side is about fat loss, and that was discovered, as I said, a little over a decade ago. And they didn't know. You know, every time something comes around often in science it's by mistake, by accident they go Whoa, wait a minute, do you see what just happened there? Like they're going to give you a drug that normally is for some other thing and it turns out it also gives a guy an erection. Or the fat loss one is for diabetics. But look at all these diabetics are losing weight. So let's give them this, the injections for that. Well, that's true not only in drugs, but it's also true in the world of medical technology as well, 100%.
Speaker 2:So what they finally discovered with the fat loss is and in the beginning we thought well, they said that had to do with liquefying the fat or melting the fat or something like that, but that's not true. So what they found out is that the fat cell wall and this is only with red light responds in such a way, if there's a certain wavelength of red light, that the fat cell wall also temporarily becomes more porous, and it's just temporary. So the fat contents some of it, can leak out to the surrounding tissue and with our unique protocol we move that fat away from the fat cells and eventually to the liver for use or elimination. So the point being here is that it's not freezing the fat, which is destroying the fat cells, or boiling the fat or lasing the fat or ultrasonic cavitation or radiofrequency. We're not destroying anything.
Speaker 2:What fat cells have is a bad rap and a bad name, and fat cells are essential tissue that if you don't have them you're going to get sicker. And they have never done the research on that, by the way. What is the bad effect of removing fat or destroying fat and what is the smart idea of just having fat cells that will release their fat temporarily, allowing us to move it away from the fat cells, and it works. But the fat cells stay absolutely intact, they don't get destroyed in any which way, and that works really well for natural healers, Because you and I both know again as how important fat loss is in this country, how popular, so if I can attract somebody to my facility with fat loss and help them with so many other things as well.
Speaker 1:It's a win-win 100% and plus, you know, fat is a battery. It's an energy storage plus other things. And, like you said, I mean if somebody's really on a fat loss journey whether it's fasting or what you're talking about at least the energy is getting released and used by the body and recycled as it needs to. When you just blow it up and do something with it, we don't really know what happens, right? I mean, it's not the entire fat molecule that's left behind after you hit it with ultrasound or freezing it or whatever. It's something other than that.
Speaker 2:Well, actually they're destroying fat cells. So you don't grow new fat cells. By the time you're an adult, the fat cells you have are the ones that you die with. You don't grow new ones. So when someone gains weight, the fat cells they have get more engorged. You don't grow new ones.
Speaker 2:So when you're destroying them, I believe remember again fat cells are involved with stem cell production, hormone production. They do store fat, but they also store toxins. So they're essential to the body and I'm not interested in destroying or removing them. So we're going to move that aside. Fat cells and fat loss, that's fun. But I'm going to move over to the miracle side just for a moment. And when I say miracles, I know it doesn't sound very scientific to you, but if you asked Arnett, who was having the regular heart attacks, yeah, he would put it in the miracles category. Or if you talk to Joey, who had 15 years of Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease and couldn't walk and was in pain every day, yeah, he would be looking at that as a miracle. As a matter of fact, one thing that, as a chiropractor and as a hippie, what I loved hearing was thank you for giving me my life back, and we would hear that from time to time as a chiropractor, but now with the red light therapy we're hearing it a lot more often. I've never heard it so often. So now what I want to do is I want to go over the mechanism of how does this work for the healing aspect? And with the fat loss, that's mostly red light. With the healing, that's mostly near infrared.
Speaker 2:So as long as we're on this subject, let's just talk about the word infrared, infrared. Really there's no such word as just infrared, so it's either far infrared or near infrared. If you say infrared, most by default they're. Really most people are talking about far infrared, not the miracle wavelength of near infrared. Far infrared's fun it's going to get you heat. So when people talk about any type of therapy and heat, it's a problem. See, heat dilates blood vessels, brings more fluid to the surface and that will block the penetration of our near-infrared. So we want to have a device that's really strong without heat. So one would never mix far-infrared in our bed because that would be a problem. You wouldn't add vibration, because that would also bring more fluid to the surface and get the person more flush and red.
Speaker 2:You don't want any of that stuff. You don't want anything. You want just red light therapy, which is again the integration of red and near infrared, and only that. So let's get back to how it works. And again, they didn't know. Remember I told you 26 years ago when I started with red light therapy, the only thing we knew for sure is it couldn't hurt. We didn't nobody. They didn't really know how it worked.
Speaker 2:And at the same time, I'm going to do a little educational stuff here, so don't get get mad at me. I want you guys to remember this word, mitochondria, and I'm sure you've heard of it, and when I went to school, we learned that there was one mitochondria in every cell of your body. And that turns out to not be true. As a matter of fact, the heart, which has the highest demand for energy and that's what mitochondria is all about, and I'll come back to what the mitochondria does in a second. But the heart that has the highest demand for energy has over 5,000 mitochondria in each cell. Wow, the mitochondria is so prevalent in your body and you can look this up it makes up 10% of your body weight.
Speaker 1:And we-.
Speaker 2:That's actually foreign DNA.
Speaker 1:Right, it's not. It's a different, it's a colony of different organism. Really, that's in your own cell.
Speaker 2:Well, so let's talk about what the mitochondria is. It's called an organelle which is smaller than any of these other processes that are going on in your body. Correct, so the mitochondria is in each cell. And then what is the mitochondria? It's the powerhouse of your body. It's the reason why you breathe oxygen and eat food. It produces the energy currency of the body. So without the mitochondria doing its thing, then you will not have the energy to heal, you won't have the energy to do most anything and you will eventually lead to disease and eventually to death. And so what are we all about? We're about making the mitochondria as effective and healthy as possible. So what the mitochondria does is it produces this energy currency called ATP, and that's what the body can use throughout the body. It's used for all the things I'm describing. Every mechanism that happens in your body, every biochemical process that happens in your body, it's all about ATP, and if you have a dysfunctional ATP system, it will eventually lead to disease and death, and what we can do is reverse that.
Speaker 2:Now, how does that happen? And you know what it's about Sunlight. It makes sense. You know, when you look out your window and see trees and grass, they're green. You know why? Because of sunlight, and they'd be dead without sunlight. And so the sun is as effective on plants and trees as it is on us. It has a huge effect on us as well, and what the sun does is well.
Speaker 2:What your body has is what we call chromophores. These are cells or tissues in your body that are sensitive to light, to sunlight. This is why hundreds of years ago, people were told to go out in the sun, and it will help heal. Now imagine taking that sunlight and multiplying it by thousands and thousands of times and then driving it to someone's body with zero side effects. In the 50 years this stuff has been studied, there's never been a recorded side effect. You couldn't again hurt anybody if you tried side effect. You couldn't again hurt anybody if you tried. This is why it's so safe. It's nuts that everybody that's listening to me has not gotten in the bed at least six times, and if you haven't, I'm going to tell you why. Ask me that question later, joe. Okay, why hasn't everybody been told about red light therapy? Sure, and what you want again is full body coverage, so let's continue.
Speaker 2:In the mitochondria is somewhat hidden. That they didn't know about is an enzyme that is also sensitive to light. It's also a chromophore. It is sensitive to certain light waves and when you stimulate that enzyme which is called cytochrome C oxidase, when you stimulate the cytochrome C oxidase with the light, it brings the mitochondria back to life. Nice and so full circle sunlight, mitochondria, cytochrome C oxidase, atp production.
Speaker 2:And now that they know this and I told you how prevalent mitochondria in your body there are books on mitochondria dysfunction and there's a disease called mitochondria dysfunction. This is relatively new understanding and now we have an answer for that, just like we have an answer for the guy with the heart attacks. We have an answer for people who have this, have a dysfunctional mitochondrial system and and what is thought is that everybody's going to wind up with mitochondria that's not going to be functioning as well as a person gets older. And now we can see how we can reverse that. Because remember what? What I tell my patients and I've had 12 practices for 40 something years and those thousands of patients and what I would try to tell all of them is that health and well-being is like a candle that burns really bright from the beginning all the ways to the end and then sputters out and dies. Right, that's what your life should be like, and not that the last 20 years of your life.
Speaker 2:You're in a wheelchair, you can't feed yourself, you can't wipe yourself, you can't bathe yourself and you're fully dependent on others. And you're immobile. You're not an amateur. You cannot get in a car and go drive out, or you might not even be lucid. So you want to have. It's not about living longer, I don't mind that but it's about highest quality of life that you can have for as long as you can have. I agree with that 100%, and that's what it's about, and the red light therapy is all about that. So what should you be looking for? Red light therapy? I don't mind a helmet or a mask or a pad that goes over your shoulder.
Speaker 2:We did all of that and we had nice results. At the time, we thought they were amazing results. The truth of the matter is, when we accidentally were forced to build the bed and now see these unbelievable results, now we realize that you want something that's going to bathe your entire body at the same time. So we're talking about dementia and Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. We're talking about multiple sclerosis and all the autoimmune diseases. We're talking about Lyme disease. We're talking about shingles. We're talking about any skin condition, including psoriasis, eczema and all that stuff. You've got to get in the bed. And so someone says well, how am I going to know if it works for me? And it takes six visits. And I'm putting the six fingers up I know no one sees me, but I feel compelled. It's six visits Now. Each visit is 12 minutes and a dose. So a dose is 12 minutes. That's three times a week for two weeks. At the end of the six weeks, your practitioner will be sitting down with you and saying hey, this is where you were when we started, so this is where we are now.
Speaker 2:And some people, like that guy that was having heart attack, he noticed the difference the first day, the one visit, when Steve, who had 40 years of Lyme disease so he contracted Lyme disease when he was 12. It ruined his childhood, it ruined his education, it ruined his social life and, of course, it ruined his lack of career and he was not happy, I don't know how else to describe it. He was pretty depressed about his life. And so we meet him 40 years later, 50-something years old, and he gets in one of our beds and then gets out of one of our beds and he notices no difference at all and he just poo-poos this as a bunch of hogwash. However, five hours later, and ever since, it's totally changed his life.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to even say anything else about it, because I'm going to send you these videos that you're more than welcome to share with your audience. I would love for you guys to watch. That guy's name is Steve. You want to watch Joey's video about? I mean, watch them all if you want, and there are two kinds of videos in here. There are patient videos and there are practitioner videos, because as a business, this thing's remarkable. I just talked to this lady. She can't travel the distance to the office that's closest to her, so she's decided to buy one for her home herself, and it's expensive. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that this is low-end. This is the highest-end device that will give you the maximum kind of results, but what she said to me was that hold on.
Speaker 2:I just want to finish this.
Speaker 1:There are a lot of practitioners that listen to this podcast and I want to make sure I have time to let people understand. But what are we talking about as an investment for something like this?
Speaker 2:So if somebody wanted to buy it, it leases for $1,400 a month. Okay, but as a business, nobody's making less than 10 times return on their investment. Nice, it's simple. Not only that, we include 32 things with the purchase, including the basic training, advanced training, the coaching, all the forms, files, folders, videos, everything that a person is going to need to be highly successful in their business. However, if they want to buy just for their home, they're not going to need all the marketing stuff and all that, so it can be at a lower price.
Speaker 2:And then there's a whole bunch of people who just want to try out the bed. So what I recommend that people do is go to trifectalightcom. Trifecta has to do with the triple effect, like winning at the racetrack the triple effect of face really skin, fat and healing. Face, fat and healing. It used to be face, but when we created the bed, we realized, wait a minute, it's the skin from head to toe, so it's skin. When we created the bed, we realized, wait a minute, it's the skin from head to toe, so it's skin, fat and healing. And that includes all the men's health, women's health, athletes. In fact, I'm going to go over athletes in a second, but I just want to finish that thought of getting somebody to use the bed. It's only six visits. At the end of those six visits you should see some change.
Speaker 2:Six visits At the end of those six visits, you should see some change. Now, if you have horrific, there are people that have horrific, tragic issues like horrible Parkinson's. I have one patient with terrible Parkinson's and he can't communicate. You know he can barely function at all, but he's taking these very powerful drugs that have side effects that are scary. But those drugs give him about 20 minutes a day of something close to normalcy, which means he could now communicate for 20 minutes a day and and just, it actually almost makes it worse because he'd get a glimpse of what life could be if he could get it all day long. So he started using our bed and he found that 20 minutes, expanding to 30 minutes and then 40 minutes and then an hour and other things. So, depending upon how severe your condition is, I don't know what kind of change you'll see after six visits. It might be phenomenal, it might be subtle, but almost everybody I've spoken to, after six visits they're going to see a change. So you go to the website trifectalightcom. You go to the contact us page and you'll see there we're on the left side. I believe it's on the left side it's want to try out for as a patient and we'll find a location closest to you. We can't list all of our locations for because of privacy issues, so we'll find the closest location and we have hundreds throughout the country and then on the right side it's. Are you interested in possibly even buying something like this?
Speaker 2:Now here's the next subject I want to go over is what does it cost to be sick? People who are not sick, they don't know what it costs to be sick. As a matter of fact, the typical 30-year-old is not thinking about what is their life going to be when they're 70. If you were to talk to your 70-year-old self, if you're 30 years old, I bet you your 70-year, your 70 year old self, if you're 30 years old, I bet you to your 70 year old self would say please take better care, because I don't wind up, wind up sick and and you know a decrepit and and whatever you know and you know I'm 72 years old and I know I'm getting older. There's some things I I don't jump down the stairs like I used to. I don't do it, but I feel like I'm going to age. I tell my patients about aging, gracefully, can't stop you from aging. That's the universal thing. We cannot stop. There's nothing we've been able to do. But we call the bed the fountain of youth in a sense, because we actually see people, feel, look and are kind of younger, not chronologically but biologically.
Speaker 2:So those people will go to the website. They'll tell us their closest location or what their location is. We'll find a location closest to them. So that's trifecta lightcom, the other thing. I wrote the book on red light therapy. So if you get a chance the other thing I wrote the book on red light therapy. So if you get a chance, if you really want to study this or know it pretty well, go to Amazoncom and just put in the word illuminated healing and you'll find my book and my name is Dr Carl Rothschild. So you can also just put in the name Carl Rothschild. But the name Rothschild is infamous, so you'll get all kinds of I mean I, you know I sometimes had to remove the comments on some of the videos that I produced because people would write well, he's a Rothschild.
Speaker 1:I don't want to have anything to do with you. Yeah, the Illuminati guy right.
Speaker 2:What you think. Yeah, you go. You know, the Rothschilds control the world. Well, I'm not one of those. Control the world? Well, I'm not one of those. So just go to Illuminated Healing. You go to the website trifectalightcom, go to Illuminated Healing, but I'll tell you there's a beautiful YouTube channel that we have and it's called. If you go to YouTube, put in the word trifecta light official, one word and I'm telling you it's got videos on there that are absolutely gorgeous and it will give you a whole array of different approaches and understanding about red light therapy.
Speaker 2:And so now, why is red light therapy not known to everybody and anybody? So before I even answer that, catch you guys on the edge of your seat. So before I even answer that, catch you guys on the edge of your seat. I want you to remember also our wonderful website called Google Scholar, and it's Google, but it's better than Google. So you just go to Google and put in the word Google Scholar and you'll find it. It's scholargooglecom. Go to scholargooglecom, or just go to Google and put in the word Google Scholar, and then you'll see something that looks just like Google but it's better. And then put in the word the phrase red light therapy, and don't be surprised when you see over three and a half million entries of double blind studies, research papers, articles and all kinds of stuff about red light therapy, and so you want to know if it can help you. So you put in red light therapy, lupus, red light therapy, psoriasis, eczema I don't care whatever you put in there liver, thyroid and see the many hundreds of different articles and studies that have been done.
Speaker 2:So the next question is why isn't this everywhere? Why isn't it at a wound center? For example, we had a lady that had third degree burns and she was guaranteed by the wound center permanent scarring, six months of pain, six months of drugs and by the second week of using our bed she was out of pain. And by the second week of using her bed she was out of pain and by the end of the third week it was gone, gone. And so why isn't that bed in every wound center?
Speaker 2:And again, I'm not a socialist, but having a capitalistic system for healing is nuts. So you go to a doctor and he can make $20,000 this way or $1,000 this way. Which way is he going to go? Let's say, pretend they're both equal, or maybe one's better than the other. Which way is people? It's too tempting A medical doctor. You're guaranteed. If you graduate as a medical doctor, you're pretty much guaranteed to become a millionaire. And why is that? I don't blame them.
Speaker 2:I'm not telling people not to make money, but maybe we're putting the wrong opportunities in front of these people and maybe it shouldn't be. You know, that's why I mean people laugh at socialized medicine, but when I talk to other countries and I do podcasts all over the world and when I talk to these people, they don't even get it when my conversation with them is well, why isn't red light everywhere? It's because it doesn't make you as much money as cutting and as drugs. And the bottom line is that I want people to make money. I'm not offering an opportunity for them to not make money, but maybe we could also consider the person's well-being and health. And this is the exciting thing about this new. I mean, I'm not going to get political. I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat, but RFK Jr has brought the possibilities to all of us because, unless he's full of crap. He said that he was going to change the focus of well-being in this country to well-being rather than profit. Again, people should make a profit. I'm not asking people to do anything for free free but maybe that they should not be only thinking about the profit and maybe taking into consideration the fact that we can do things that don't make as much money but are very healing.
Speaker 2:And again, I want to just finish with a couple of things. One, side effects zero. In the 50 years this technology has been studied, there's never been a recorded side effect. But the second thing that I haven't gone over with you is contraindications. Who should not get in the bed? And really there are no contraindications. But I started it off with really there are not. So don't listen to that phrase that there are no contraindications, because I'm going to give you legal contraindications. Phrase that there are no contraindications because I'm going to give you legal contraindications. Sure, one of those legal contraindications is a pregnant woman. Okay, is the light dangerous to the mother of fetus? No, it'll help her and the fetus tremendously. But if that baby comes out anything other than perfect, they're going to want to sue people. And so I tell everyone let's not be in that neighborhood the day after she delivers. That's a perfect candidate for you to treat the heck out of her, especially after C-section, if they get in this bed, they're going to recover so much quicker, the scarring is going to be reduced dramatically and they're going to be extremely grateful.
Speaker 2:So I just want to also finish up with what you should be looking for. Again, I don't mind helmets, I don't mind masks. They're fine, they're fun, great. But if you're looking for a full body bed and when I started with beds there was none, and you know when we started management there was really little Now, every day somebody comes out with another junk from China, and what am I supposed to do with that?
Speaker 2:So what you want to look for is high-grade, medical-grade lights that are very strong but don't get hot. Heat is the enemy. I already told you that. That dilates blood vessels. It'll block the penetration of light, and all the cheaper lights out there get hot. Ours is very strong without getting hot. Again, if you have heat, it's counterproductive because you're going to wind up blocking the penetration of your light.
Speaker 2:You want the light to penetrate as deep as possible, so you want what we coined the phrase 26 something years ago called cold laser or cold therapy. Not that lights literally got cold, but they didn't get hot. That's the essence. So you want cold, but they didn't get hot. That's the essence. So you want very strong lights that don't get hot. You want the canopy that comes down on the person to come right onto the person not the weight of it, but it will approximate their body. Because as you come away from the, as the light comes away from the person's body, you lose power exponentially.
Speaker 2:You want the lights as close to the body as possible, and why the cheaper beds and cheaper equipment can't do that is because their lights are too hot. So you want to be able to bring the lights as close to the possible. You want high-end medical grade that can get very strong without being hot. And then the last thing is that you want to be able to pulse the wave. Now, pulsing the wave serves two purposes. One, it dissipates any other heat, even more heat, because between each of the impulses you can dissipate some of that additional heat, so you can have even more power.
Speaker 2:But even more importantly is resonating frequencies, and some of you people are familiar with healing frequencies, where you can have a certain frequency that will resonate with different tissues in the body.
Speaker 2:My favorite frequency is 528. That's the universal healing frequency. And so we have the bed has light frequency. We include a sound generator and we include a vibratory device. And the vibratory device is done after the lights because the vibration itself will bring more fluid to the surface and we don't want that. So it goes while they're in the bed they're hearing the sound frequency going on, they're getting light frequency from the bed and then they get off the bed to get on the whole body vibrational device and then they have that frequency as well. So the kind of level of success we have with fat loss, with healing with the face and skin and all that is pretty remarkable. And with all the training and all the coaching we also include a coach With all that and all the files, folders, videos and forms that everyone and anyone would need, the results have been that we have a very high success rate with what we call business in a box.
Speaker 1:Well, you have most definitely piqued my interest, and I've been working with and studying natural healing modalities for 40 years myself, and this is really the first time that this particular near infrared technology has really been presented to me this way. So I'm looking forward to getting onto your website and taking a look and seeing, and, who knows, where we go from here and Joe do me a favor, send me your address.
Speaker 2:I will, and I'll send you a copy of my book beautiful.
Speaker 1:I appreciate it. I will read it and you know if, if it works out, maybe we'll have a further conversation. I know you did a beautiful presentation in a quick way. Sometimes guests like to come back and go deep into some topics. We'll see where we go.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's been a pleasure Okay.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Well. Thank you so much, Dr Carl Rothschild and not the bad Rothschild, as we said and we will thank everybody for your support listening to the show. And, Carl, we will see you next time. Thank you All right. Thanks a lot, All right.
